MedellinHeel

Remains to be seen, but I hope you are right.

so he is good and doesnt need to step up his game to another level? gotcha

everyone is offering the same thing in regards to money. so it comes down to playing time and which ever team her wants to play for.

DEAR LORD PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN! WE HAVE A HUGE WHOLE AT LT, TURNER IS HIS FRIEND, GOT CAM. FUG PLEASE!

Big Ben is almost a pencil in for top 10 QB ranking / rating each year. He is consistent enough.

To most he is already top 5 QB material and is only held back due to Shula, OL, and lack of WRs. lol

Im pretty sure Cam stepping up will have more significance than Fozzy stepping up.

We can only speculate and make educated guesses. But it is safe to say it is both stuff out of his control (OC, OL, weapons, etc) and also some stuff he can control (footwork, being more decisive, making better reads/throws, etc).

While you have a point, one must also understand every player on a roster is not as of equal importance or has such a major influence on the success or failure of the team with on the field play and cap ramifications. We need Cam to take that next step a lot more than Fozzy.

Me nor anyone else on this board know the reason to why Cam hasnt put it together. I imagine the reason(s) are many and varied.

Lmao. Putting words in my mouth and assuming outlandish things. I meant exactly what I said, nothing more, nothing less.

we just getting started lol

Most do, some more than others. Point is is getting near the time for Cam to take that next step.

Plenty of people in the middle (as myself). Cam has the potential and talent to be a top 5 QB in the league. He has shown flashes. With that said, he still has a lot to improve on ie consistency, footwork, decision making, etc.

You are kidding yourself you if think the majority of Giant's fans wouldnt trade Eli for Wilson a heartbeat. We should make an account on the Giants board just to prove it.

Merely specualtion. Can only go off the numbers. Not sure there is a Giants fan that wouldnt trade Eli for Wilson in a heartbeat.

huh? 2014 - Ben (3) Rivers (12) 2013 - Ben (9) Rivers (4) 2012 - Ben (7) Rivers (11) 2011 - Ben (10) Rivers (11) The last 4 years Rivers has only had better numbers 1 time.

Not talking about who was better during the superbowl runs, we are talking about who is the better player.

I agree with everything you said, but this last part is a bit iffy. You can not put Eli and Flacco in the same sentence as Big Ben. Ben is far more consistent and has simply played better. Rivers easily better than Eli and Flacco, but Ben has been a top 10 QB for the past 5+ seasons. That with the superbowls easily put him ahead of Rivers.

SB's have to be factored in "somewhat". Rivers is a damn good QB.

No maybe about it. Eli is without question a turnover machine. Wilson is in no way shape or form a turnover machine. Wilson is smart and delivers when he is needed to.

Eli is a turnover machine. Wilson is not. I am gonna poo on any turnover machine.

SB is not a good indicator by itself, but one needs to acknowledge a QB that is able to step up in the biggest of moments and lead his team to a win. (assuming they played good in the SB win)

Cam had a REALLY rough yr last yr. But you have to cut him some slack due to the atrocious OL play and Shula being trash.

Wilson is right where he needs to be. Back to back superbowls. Should have two rings if his coach didnt go full retard. He is smart and simply makes plays when they are needed. Put Rivers on that Balitmore and Giants team and they do even better. Eli throws way too many picks for me to put him above Rivers regardless of his lucky superbowl wins.