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Which is crazy because we weren't bottom 5 last season. Then we fired the coach that kept us competitive, make a ridiculous trade for Bryce Young and send our best receiver away. Now we look bad enough to get that #1 pick in the draft that we traded up for in this past draft. Unfortunately it's going to someone else

All this is probably karma for not hiring Wilks. We're looking like a Rhule team after playing inspired hard-nosed football at the end of last season.

Most likely drafted the wrong Qb. On top of hiring the wrong coach. Been outcoached 3 weeks straight.

Shades of Ron Rivera

This is the most pressure our qb has been under all season. I don't think Bryce would fared to well this game. I'm hoping he progresses however, we need him to be legit.

We have no one who can pass rush outside of Burns and blitzing Frankie Luvu. And some of these guys want to "trade Burns"

I agree the scheme could be better. We'll have a little better ideal today.

2022: Adam Theilen: 712 yards Robert Woods: 527 yards DJ Chark: 502 yards Nico Collins: 487 yards Tank Dell: 3rd Rd draft pick Jonathan Mingo: 2nd Rd draft pick CJ is blessed to have such weapons

He's had a pretty good connection percentage with Theilen, and hasn't really targeted Chark. The only receiver whose been targeted plenty with a low connection rate is Mingo. So where are all these drops coming from?

As of this point Bryce hasn't given his guys a chance to make contested catches, remember NO SEPARATION, and holding onto the ball. You are arguing from both sides of the candle stick. You can't blame the receivers why Byrce isn't forcing it because tight windows, and then blame them for not making contested catches that Byrce isn't throwing.

You forgot to something. The GREAT Robert Woods,Tank Dell, and Nico Collins.

Of course want to see how the offense operates with Dalton, want to see if we can play some complimentary ball this week.

Where has it been reported that Burns is asking for 34 million a year since you guys keep bringing up Bosa?

Damn

At the start of 2023 season they are in the same conversation we will see how the rest of the season goes.

How do you define overpaying Burns? The market is the market, you don't think there are some teams out there that would pay Burns? Probably have alot better record than the Panthers too for the same reasons. Overpaying someone is when you sign them for alot more money than any other team would ie: Marty Hurney extending Jake Delhomme after that playoff debacle.

Luvu is not the best player. He had a coming out party last year as full-time starter but Burns had been that man and still is. Burns plays at a much premium position, premier Qb's, and premier pass rushers are always the first to go off draft boards. Without Burns we don't have a pass rush of any significance and that makes life harder for Luvu, the secondary and everyone else. It's also funny how you want to use Bosa's previous stats to justify him being the better player, but want to discount this season's current stats.

I would take either one of them on my team. And just like San Fran found a way to pay their star DE. I would pay Burns, you don't let players like that walk, why? So you can try and hope to find another Burns in the draft?

He's played 3 games The stats are what they are. He has 1 on the season Burns has played 2 games with 2 sacks.

For all that dominating Bosa is doing he has 1 sack on the season, 1 less than Burns who stands at 2.

Luvu doesn't get the sack if Burns doesn't move Carr off of his spot and forces him to step up in the pocket. It's called team defense. No player dominates every game they play what kind of standard is that. That fact if the matter is Burns is a force, the Atlanta coach was interviewed by the FOX reporter and said they have to make adjustments in the 2nd half to counter Burns. It's good thing none of you are the real Panthers GM. "trade Burns so we can get a receiver for timid Byrce Young" Sorry Bryce for sending strays your way, but man some of these takes are wild.

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Ginn was always going to be the #1 option after KB got hurt. Anybody that remembered the 2013 season knew that him and Cam had a connection. That's one of the reason I knew Cam might have a special season. The closest thing to a guy who could stretch the field for him was an aging Steve Smith. With Ginn that was going to open up things for Olsen and the running game.

We had a horrible defense in 2020 you can't that failure on Bridgewater with Mccaffrey injured he was the only reason we were even competitive in a season most thought we were going to be 2010 bad. Had Robby Anderson looking like a probowler.

Not arguing about whether the approach is successful. My point was when Teddy pass the ball whether it was YAC or not 7.6 average it was more efficient than people were giving him credit for. 4.2 that's dinking and dunking you need to complete 3 passes on average just to get a 1st down.