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Half of these guys were talking up our weapons last season and have Teddy's week arm was holding the offense back. This season now everybody sucks and is holding Sam back.

Ahh the Sam has no weapons trope has followed him from New York to Carolina I see.

2020 season of the two units the offense was the better of two. They decided to blow that up for some reason. Now this season the defense is by in far the better unit. So they took a step forward with the defense and a step backwards with the offense. About the same. Alot of questionable decisions in year 2.

Donald hasn't done anything in his career to show he's a better Qb than Teddy. The offense was much more dynamic last season, as you couldn't key in on one player. Once defenses started blanketing Moore this season the offense went kaput. We sucked in the redzone last season. We're better this season but way less opportunities down there. Teddy's offense was much more efficient and took what the defense gave us and that kept us in alot of games even when overmatched. This years offense is too dependent on someone beating their guy making a great play, not efficient at all. That could work if we had Steve Smith in his prime, but we don't. It was a lateral move at best to bring Sam here, for what he brings with arm talent he negates that with poor decision making. Donald will make a splash play here or there whereas you can see he's talented but he's also reckless with the ball. All in all this offense has taken a step backwards from last season to anybody with good eyes to see. If they would have just stayed pat on offense with the improved play of the defense this team would be in a much better spot.

And they can't blame it on the oline he had all the time in the world back there and was dancing with happy feet seeing ghost.

Whatever it is, it must be the illegal type if they think Sam was good today. He had a good drive at the end. And a horrible 3 1/2 quarters before that.

Some guys seem to get some great breaks without actually having to earn them. What did he do to earn that extension.

I love when arrogance blows up in people faces, just hate it had to be at the expense of my favorite team. What a dumb, arrogant, decision to dump Bridgewater after 1 season after orchestrating a offense that saw career seasons from Moore, Anderson, Samuel. Now this offense looks like the post Delhomme pre Newton Panthers. Rhule and Brady are starting to look like clowns. We look like the Jets of the last few seasons but with way more talent. PJ Walker's only start last season looks better than what we've been getting from Sam these last couple of weeks. May need to give it shot otherwise time to start talking draft.

You know they gotta save face, they ran a competent QB out of here, and then traded picks to acquire Sam. We riding this QB to a top ten draft pick. So enjoy the ride.

Absolutely not, all the big plays are coming on them.

How did offense go from the stronger unit just a season ago. To not just the weakest unit, but one of the weakest units we've ever fielded. With the talent we have. What a difference a year makes.

"This is an 8-8 league until your Qb throws 6 ints the last 8 quarters possibly 7 had the linebacker not dropped it."

Teddy Bridgewater made their offense look somewhat competent last season and then they threw him under the bus. And now we get to watch Phil Snow and this defense get squandered by a Pickles (esque) looking offense.

That would be correct.

Aha well if that's the case. This is definitely the season for Brady to show his mustard. If he's the offensive guru everyone proclaimed him to be. If not then maybe Teddy was right.

WIth the defense and running backs on this team, they could have won many games with a game manager like Bridgewater. There's some myth on this board that you need a Mahomes to win a Superbowl. Denver whipped us in the Super bowl when Manning's arm was completely shot. The 49ers got to the big game riding a great defense and ball control offense with Jimmy G. But maybe you guys are right, you definitely need a big arm to deliver those long comeback routes that defensive backs are sitting on and keep getting picked off.

And that hubris of dumping Teddy will haunt them this season and bite them in the you know what. We had a veteran QB who was one of the fastest at diagnosing and getting the ball out of his hands, "ooh the dreaded check downs" and that was able to mask how much deficiency we had on the offensive line. The offense was in much more in rhythm, the problems last season wasn't turnovers are even moving the ball between 20's it was in the red-zone we couldn't score TD's and kicked to many field-goals. So Rhule and Brady went out and required Sam, thinking their system and coaching could turn around his career, even though he's been one of the worst performing Qb's when being pressured. And they do very minimal to build an oline around him and now the same problems that plaque him in New York is happening here. So now Rhule and Brady are being exposed a little, they have been very arrogant with their handling of the QB position, subsequently with all the pieces they added on the defense, that side of the field was ready to compete for the division this season. I think this upcoming game against the Vikings will tell us alot about the way remaining season will play out.

I'm not placing all the blame on the quarterback, but I am going to hold him to the same standard that was applied to other quarterbacks. Protect the football, that's something that he can control.

No Edwardo. I never said it gave me the authority on anything you indicated I didn't know what I was speaking about because I disagreed with your opinion. I simply stated I'll put my experience and knowledge up against yours any day of the week. You made it personal not me. Again Sam has done some good things but this offense hasn't really looked efficient all year, they had leads for the most part and he hasn't been asked to do too much. I stand by what I said so far trading for Donald appears to be a lateral move from a season ago.

I don't care if he disagrees with my analysis this is my opinion. I'm chuckling at you trying to question someone's football acumen. 5 ints in 2 games doesn't spell great quarterbacking no matter how you spin it.

Old man I played football for surely at a higher level than your ass. I know what good Qb play looks at we are getting mediocre at best. Can he improve hopefully. But right now the investment is on the downward turn.

The only game he's look impressive in was the New Orleans game if you want to keep it a buck. He struggled against the Jets, our defense nearly broke Zach Wilson in half yet they were still with us until the very end. The Houston game was still iffy until the 4th quarter with a 3rd string rookie. He got Diggs paid for the Cowboys and resurrected Darius Clay season. We 3-2 because of our defense let's not play any games about that.

And even more ridiculous to think we traded draft picks for what we saw yesterday. What an improvement!!

And what will I record be with a top ten defense this season if they don't check out?