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He’s too talented to ship off and would be a rockstar on any team, but he doesn’t fit this defense at all. It’s a bad position to be in.

This team hasn’t known how to use him since his rookie year

We were sold on “elite processing” and last week both of his interceptions were Clause -esque

Why would we trade the number one pick in the draft for a guy that takes a few years? The idea was to win now and we’re doing the opposite.

Doesn't matter if he pans out eventually. The entire idea behind it was to win now, and we inexplicably traded out future #1 pick and top wideout for a a QB with "elite processing" and zero elite traits. The entire team has regressed in every department. Nothing is going right. Not only are we not winning now, we're not winning at all. This might still be tolerable if Bryce Young looked like a #1 pick, but he doesn't. Our superprocessor, Napoleon Bonaparte of a quarterback is making some of the worst decisions you'll ever see, leading to Clausen-esque interceptions, with very little to show otherwise in any time other than garbage time. The coaching staff clearly has no faith in him. The fact he doesn't have weapons or the best line in the league does not matter - if he's not ready to carry a team, we should not have traded what we did for him. As far as I can tell, no NFL team that traded a first round pick has ever ended up with it being the #1 pick. We will likely end up being the first. This is an outright embarrassment and the worst trade I can think of that we've ever done. Oddly enough, this was one time analytics would have helped Tepper because literally nothing about Young's physical profile screams "NFL quarterback". It will take years to dig ourselves out of this mess. And before you mention it - no, Sean Gilbert doesn't count. This is because it wasn't actually a trade (it was signing a player under another team's franchise tag), and because Gilbert wasn't actually terrible - he was one of the better pieces on our 1999 and 2000 defenses, just not anywhere near the price of two first-round picks. The most disastrous part of Gilbert was his salary.

He’s supposed to be the ghengis khan of quarterbacking, surely he can do more than screens?

He is severely injured. Severely. It’s not good.

Worst bust in Panthers history?

The Ghengis Khan of quarterbacking, maestro of the screen pass

Rome wasn’t built in a day

Fitterer drafted a long snapper, in the fifth round, when it wasn’t a need, and the guy didn’t even make the roster.

We traded a top tier receiver and this year's #1 pick for a noodle armed game manager

DJ Moore through five games - 27 catches, 531 yards, 5 touchdowns Christian McCaffrey through four games - 600 total yards, 7 touchdowns We trade our best players for nothing and then see them go off for other teams. Absolutely embarrassing. And thanks to Fitterer, we can't even rebuild with the #1 pick because we won't have it. There's nothing to look forward to. Fire Fitterer now.

In on every deal

Hes supposed to be the Albert Einstein of quarterbacking

But he’s the Ghengis Khan of quarterbacking! Unstoppable genius brain.

How many of those were behind or at the line of scrimmage?

Our offense scored six points

We gave up two firsts and DJ Moore for a noodle arm, fumble-prone game manager

At the rate his YPC is trending he'll be in negative yardage in the next few weeks so I don't care what he thinks

The thing with Hurney is his FA signings were mediocre, and he did overpay for vets. But his first-round picks were almost always absolute game changers - franchise cornerstones that make up for any other mistakes. We've now lost that edge and our late round picks are somehow even worse than before, and so we never get those rebound seasons we always had.

Stroud or Richardson could make that throw

How many of those were screens, and how many were past 10 yards downfield?

Not on the list: trading Brian Burns for two first-round picks. In hindsight, what a no-brainer move.

At the end of the 2017 season, the Panthers had a record of 181-186-1 (.493) with eight playoff appearances and two Super Bowl victories. Only five seasons had fewer than seven wins. Since Tepper purchased the Panthers, we have a 29-57 record (.337). Since firing Ron Rivera, our record is 17-41 (.293); Rivera's record with the Washington Commanders is .462. Our best two seasons (2018 and 2022) resulted in seven wins. Our points differential from 2018 on is -350. We have not had a single season with an above-average offense in points or yards since 2018. We have not had a single season with an above-average defense in points allowed since 2017. We do not have a first-round draft pick in 2023. It is very possible we record the worst record in the league with nothing to show for it. We were offered two first-round picks for Brian Burns and declined them; we are currently trying to trade for a wide receiver. David Tepper promised to end a culture of mediocrity. He did. We're no longer middle-of-the-road; we are instead now the worst organization in professional football.