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It's kind of depressing getting older and realizing people never actually saw Jake play. His whole thing was downfield chunks to Steve Smith, even in this 2008 bum arm year he led the league in yards per completion lol. Fox was "conservative" but we were basically a power run team with an air coryell passing attack.

At this point Bryce has been a sub-replacement level QB for three years as the team has improved dramatically around him. His performance hasn't really changed at all. There's been no development or growth. At some point you just have to move on.

Who else is he gonna play, Brian St. Pierre?

Current Bryce Young stats: Attempts: 269 Completions: 166 Yards: 1,514 Touchdowns: 11 Interceptions: 7 Over a full 17-game season, this comes out to: Attempts: 468 Completions: 313 Yards: 2,859 (168 yards per game) Touchdowns: 21 Interceptions: 13 In terms of yardage, this would rank as the 19th-best total in team history, only slightly ahead of 2006 Jake Delhomme (2,805), who missed 3 games. It would even rank behind 2023 Bryce Young, who threw for 2,877 yards in only 16 games. The only quarterbacks who started a majority of a season in team history with worse passing numbers are: Kerry Collins (163 yards per game - 201 if you exclude a game he missed most of due to injury) Jimmy Clausen (145 yards per game over 10 starts) This is statistically on pace to be Bryce's worst season ever. It's year 3. We have two good running backs, weapons at skill positions, and an offensive line that works. Zero sign of progress from a statistical perspective other than Bryce having a lot of game-winning drives. But guess who also had that? The Golden Calf of Bristol, and once the Broncos cut him they won a Super Bowl within a few years.

This team might only have one or two losses with above-average QB play. The good thing is this team is built well enough we could slot someone in and do well.

Very, very rare to see a coffin corner punt in 2025.

Objectively, the best has to be The Draw, a playcall so insane (Steve Beuerlein QB sneak - he had no mobility!) that it worked. My favorite though is Cam's "You've been watching film" moment. Biggest chad move in recent NFL history.

You're getting the exact opposite here, Delhomme was a great QB and the perfect QB for that team. The Fox offense has a stereotype of being conservative, but it was actually very much a big-chunk offense. We'd gash teams with the run and throw massive chunk plays downfield - it was closer to an Air Coryell than to power run. Delhomme had a great arm and his ability to throw downfield opened up the running game - and vice versa. Jake actually led the entire league in yards per completion in 2008. Unfortunately his arm that year only lasted 16 games. In hindsight, but there was really no reason to at the time. Jake was having a very, very strong season in 2007 before he got hurt. We brought in David Carr in 2007 to compete and he was awful. Extending Jake in 2009 was clearly the wrong move.

The same reason we celebrated game-winning drives from Jake Delhomme in 2003 with performances like: 96 yards, 2 INTs 181 yards, 1 TD 1 INT 148 yards, 0 TDs I do not give a crap how we win, I just want to win. And we're winning for the first time in a decade.

Before you all rip me an ass, let me voice my opinion. It is not sustainable winning with 148 yards passing and no touchdowns. If they didn't have Stephen Davis rushing for 178 yards, they would be in deep trouble. I am thrilled that they are winning. I am not being negative, just realistic. The season is almost half way over and they still have the problem of anemic QB production. Believe me, they know something has to give sooner or later. I like Jake as a person and seems like a good dude. But being a good dude will not win games in the long run. Sooner or later, they will have to make a change. Their is a certain level of production that you need from the QB position. This kind of production will not get them to the next level.

Ickey and Jonathan Stewart as well as all of Panthers Twitter had urged Meow Mix not to return

I'm glad we don't have him, actually. Gano played as well as he did, and isn't a massive turd either. Kicker is the least of our problems right now. QB eval is.

Why would you think my meme was serious

Bryce haters when he leads his ninth game winning drive on the road in Green Bay against the best team in the NFC

Game winning drive #9.

You're talking to the same guy that posted a thread after Rico's first 200 yard game insisting that it wasn't actually good because if you take out all his good runs he only averaged 3 yards per carry or something

It's actually incredibly funny how we had an effective power run offense under Wilkes and then Tepper blew it up and we're only just now winning again once we shifted back to a power run offense.

We have to put in four more offensive linemen, after all.

Four Panthers (Steve Smith Sr., Greg Olsen, Luke Kuechly, and Peanut Tillman) have advanced.

I think we're gonna lose and I'm not sure it's gonna be close. Dalton is washed. Maybe he can handle a game but I think they're gonna go all-in on the run defense.

If arm strength decided who the best QB was JaMarcus Russell would have been a hall of famer

Jameis was 2-5 last year. -64 scoring differential, and his overall TD/turnover differential was 1:1. That's terrible.

I do not want Jameis Winston

Well this season was fun