Dragoon11

Just saying, we could have chosen CJ. I think Frank Reich wanted CJ but Tepper wanted Bryce. Nonetheless, Houston not talking about the 5th year option with him... or am I mistaken?

I agree... the improvements we saw at the end of last year just has not materialized this year. I wondered the same thing. Is Bryce REALLY putting in the work in the off-season and during the season to be the best QB1 he can be? There seems to be a competitive fire that is missing with Bryce. I've been rooting for the kid, I really have. But yeah, there's a point where you just have to be honest about it. In Houston, they're not asking this question, right?

I can't disagree with that notion for sure. Yeah, he'd REALLY have to show great improvement. Basically, if we win the division, MAYBE it's worth considering, but you're right, is he worth it in the long run... maybe not.

I think the stupid stuff is coachable. I also think it is in fact a maturity intangible he could grow out of. Kid has a cannon for an arm and has size and mobility. Of course it's a gamble, but he's only 26. He shows passion when he's on the field and that what you want from your QB1. So if we could get him for the right price I think it's an option worth considering.

I would be ok with Levis. He shows a competitive fire when he's out there. That's what's missing with this team.

A lot of that is going to greatly depend on how he finishes. We're about to get the whole picture of him in the next 5 games. If he can stop being in his own head and just freaking compete he MIGHT be ok. Again, we're about to see. Bryce needs to just stop over thinking everything and learn how to want to simply win at all cost.

This is what I've said. Bryce talks, walks, and sounds like he is still in high school. Your QB needs to be able to take command of a locker room and a team. The QB has to be very alpha! Just look at Drake Maye in his first year. Look at how he sounds and carries himself. Bryce just does not have that intangible. And it's not just about his size. It's about his confidence and his belief in his ability. He doesn't have that dog in him to be the best at his position. You can hear it and see it. Can he get there? He's still just a kid... but he needs grow a pair quickly!

He has one or two reads at best. This being the guy we drafted for this "processing speed". He just does not see the blatantly obvious open receiver ever. Just forces it into his first or second progression.

Well don't worry, I'm sure you'll get plenty more chances.

You made the best point talking about the defense gifting the offense. You know you have a dysfunctional team when your defense gets 3 turnovers in one half and you come away with only 3 inept points. Surely not complimentary football. The defense played more than good enough to win this football game. The first INT by Bryce set the tone for the rest of the game on offense. Such a stupid call by Canalas in that situation. I really believe if we score a TD there, this game may have had a different outcome. What are the chances the Niners stop us there on 3 straight runs? Very bad coaching and very bad situational awareness by Bryce throwing it instead of running to the pylon for the score. Cannot take the TO there. Inexcusable, bad football.

It's called focus factor. Can have all the talent in the world, but if you do not have the smarts for the game and situational awareness that talent gets you nowhere. And it's not just XL, this seems endemic to this whole team.

At the one yard line, first and goal, after your defense gets a turnover and puts you in prime scoring territory, and a momentum changing opportunity. With TWO great running backs, and Dowdle being one of the best RB's in the league this year. It's truly a mind fug.

He could have walked into the end zone on the stupid pass he threw for an INT where momentum was everything. Kid has ZERO situational awareness along with the coach.

Holding a clipboard with a surfer style hairdo, and being on TV while making millions... BRILLIANT!!!

There does seem to be some resiliency with this team. Saw it in the Arizona game. That would lead one to believe that these players believe in the process Canales is trying to convey. That being said, it is a very fickle league, along with the locker room. It's up to these young players to evolve the process! I like what I'm seeing from some of our young players. Handling adversity is also a part of that. That's where the leaders/emerging leaders in the locker room come in. Just keep playing with tenacity!

Very good point. But, to win you still have to have big conversions on 3rd down. There are always parts of the game where your QB 1 is forced to make a play. It's just complimentary football. You're dead on with what Dowdle has done. But, it has helped out Bryce by putting him in less situations where he has to carry the team. We'll see what impact this all has... a lot of variables and a lot of football still to be played.

Interesting that when Canales was at Seattle, that was their recipe for success huh? Ironic? Nahhh, that's how you win in the NFL, by imposing your will up front!

Really good point! Plays right into the "keep pounding" mantra. When this team has been successful over the years it has usually been because of our dominant run game... and defense.

I was paraphrasing, but I believe Dave Canales said something close to this. I personally believe on offense, playmakers are emerging. Bryce is still making mistakes, but he's not letting it get to him and keeps battling, and making plays in crucial moments. On defense, the run D is much improved. But, and we desperately need a consistent pass rush, we could be deadly if we had it. We seem to be loaded at the RB position. Even Etienne looks good! And I'm loving what I'm seeing from Jimmy Horn. I think this kid will end up being something special. What's your take 6 weeks in?

Bobby made some plays today!

Yeah, there are a lot of people that would GLADLY eat crow if Bryce could turn into some version of say... Drew Brees (just example). I feel like he IS learning the right way. It's baby steps, but that's ok. The kid is 24 years old trying to carry a franchise. That's a hell of a burden. But... if he can find consistent confidence in himself and his teammates, then everyone would love to be wrong. But, you have to win in this league as well

Sorry bro, ALSO, congrats on your new daughter! Where are my manners? So excited that the Panthers just won back to back games that I've lost focus, lol. Seriously though, congratulations bro... nothing more special than that!

I dig the George Carlin picture on your wall!

Damn! We do not take losses THAT hard. Looks like they lost everything, lol

Lol, I JUST texted my girlfriend that I have never been more proud to see the Panthers at .500.