Dragoon11

I mean, he is not even finished with his sophomore season. He probably only has to shave once per week. How many "franchise" QB's out there took their team to the top in their first two seasons throughout NFL history? Yes, here has been a few (and they had very favorable conditions), but overall, I'd say it's a very low percentage. How might Bryce look right now if we had a Smitty, Justin Jefferson, Ja'Marr Chase, and a world beating TE with a top 5 defense? Before we call Bryce Young a bust don't you think the GM and coaches should come as close as they can to building that kind of talent around him THEN see how he fares? Bryce probably has 1 to 2 more wins and averages 30-40 more yards per game if he simply has a true #1 play making WR and only that. Say what you want, everyone has their opinion, and they're not necessarily wrong. Bryce is improving, but he needs more help across the board. I think the hypotheticals as it applies to him are not so far fetched. Let's see how the last few games play out.

He can speak yiddish for all I care, as long as he starts showing big play ability. Interesting that he chose Devin Funchess's old number... honestly, that's who he plays like. I'm not bashing the kid, I honestly see good potential in him, but he does need to show some HR threat. That's why we drafted him where we did. What is his longest play so far... just curious? Does he have more than one?

Drift, shank, pull, choke... what's the difference? Field goal kickers make damn good money compared to what we make. Can we agree on that? Do your job! The one job you have, I mean serious, how hard is training camp for a kicker? Eddie signed a two year 4.1 million dollar contract with 2.2 million guaranteed... these games are WHY we pay them MILLIONS! I'm sorry, I do not have a lot of forgiveness for kickers. There is a reason the Tuckers and Kasays last so long.

Tom Brady built a legacy off taking what the defense gives you. It's all about building cohesion within your system and your receiving group/offensive coordinator and keeping it. If your run game is strong, 6 yards a pop (pass) will win you games if you can connect vertically a couple times. So many variables.

There are obviously other variables at play, thats a given. That's why I said you can allow one miss. No matter, one of those two misses goes through the uprights this is a different forum. A 38 yard FG should be automatic, I get it though, we have to learn to play through adversity to win. But, it would be nice if kicking was not one of them. That being said, we as Panthers fan should feel encouraged right now. I'm not taking anything away from the direction the team seems to be moving. You have to learn to win in every phase of the game.

He did more than enough to win last week and most definitely this week. Are you talking stats, or just being clutch? Because I'm pretty sure Bryce did not miss two field goals and fumble in field goal range in OT (not that FG range would have mattered anyway). IDK man, that TD throw to Thielen at the end is about all you can do to win. Not sure how that is bottom 10.

Having a clutch kicker might help too. Can give your kicker one miss, but the other cost us the game. He gets paid to do one thing!

We also learned that Eddie Pinero does not have that clutch gene. After that first miss he kept drifting the ball to the left, which says the miss stayed in his head. I've been waiting for a game to see if Eddie can win us games because I do not remember a time when he has really been tested. Can allow one miss in a game, but lets be honest, kicking cost us this one.

Not to mention he is showing signs that he COULD be the franchise's next Greg Olson. We should all hope he is fine.

Yeah, we need to get back to that "smash and dash" style of football that helped give the Panthers that "keep pounding" mentality. Also helps take pressure off your young developing or whoever QB. Nothing but upside to this if Brooks turns into what we hope he can be. Especially with our young TE starting to look like a stud.

Honestly, that cut he made for that 4th quarter TD against the Saints was what play making is all about. And quite frankly, it is exactly what this team needs. This kid has worked his ass off. Remember, he got to play with and watch Christian McCaffery. Seems like he has that same drive and mentality, so I am fine with signing someone that shows up every day ready to work!

Peppers did not disappear for the hall of fame ceremony. Lol, yeah, there is a huge difference.

Yeah, brand new. I'm a futbol guy! Lol

I know who he is but I never realized just how bad Ian Thomas really was. He's been with us for a bit now. Really says a lot about the overall lack talent on this team. How did it get THIS bad?

Well, that was going to be my very next question once it was confirmed that is who it was. Most pathetic lack of effort I've ever seen by a player and play by an NFL team. Was truly shameful.

Was he the one that missed the block on that 4th and 1 we went for. Just lets the guy go past him in the right side of the line? I saw the highlight but I could not see the jersey number. When I saw it I was just floored... how did he not even see the guy in front of him or even lay a hand on him?

Actually, watching the games, his blocking has been his strenth so far. His problem is that he is getting opportunities in key downs to make plays and he is just droppng the ball. He's getting meaninful snap, it just seems like he's not handling the "bight lights" well just yet. You are right, we cannot expect him to be David Njoku (who he was compared to entering draft) right now, but come on kid, those 3rd down drops hurt! I think he will be a good TE, you're right... development.

The optimist in me says this kid is going to be so much better than the TE we drafted from that same school that suddenly forgot how catching footballs work. Here's to hope!!

Nice job with that! We finally more than fixed our O-line. Just wish all the other peices could come together. This team needs the proverbial ball to bounce our way for a change (of course pun intended).

You're absolutely right with what you are saying, but think about this. Revolving door at QB. How is Sam Darnold doing right now? How is Baker Mayfield doing right now? Both playing at an all pro, almost MVP caliber right now. Why did it not work here? I totally get that Tepper may not know how to win, but in the end, he's just the money guy. Talking about throwing things at walls and seeing if it sticks, I feel you brother. But why is it that nothing seems to stick? Look at this year, just when it seemed we had a glimer of hope our anchor on defense Brown, season ending injury. Do you think he would have made a difference in the last two games? And it's not just that... for some reason we just cannot get those diamond in the rough players in the draft that end up being those "Dogs" that Morgan speaks about. Players have to emerge, and YES we need better decision making. But unfortunately in the NFL, those decisions are like a coin flip. And it seems the Panthers are in an era where it's just not landing our way. Love him or hate him (mostly hate here, I get it), Tepper WANTS to win. He is hemorraging money with this team right now and the business man in him does not want to lose money. I get why everyone hates him, but even he needs a little luck when it comes to the offseason and trying to improve the team. This kind of thing is not easy to turn around. Panthers are not the only team. I mean, the Jets just fired Robert Saleh who I thought was a good coach 5 weeks in. I feel your pain, trust me, been here a long time with this team, all the ups and downs. I do think we have the right coaches and GM right now... we just NEED some damn luck at the QB position, and what would help with that is playmakers at WR/TE/RB! We have a top 10 Offensive line. But, we are decimated with injuries on defense. Just BAD LUCK... snake eyes. It wll all come together eventually, it has to... right?

Problem is... you have to have cultural guys in support. For some resaon this team has lost that type of culture you speak of. We can blame Tepper, but it's not like Tepper wants to lose. We just seem to strike out at every gamble. Guys cannot stay healthy at all. Someone needs to bring a shaman in to burn some sage or something. I don't know what it is, but we just have some bad juju.

You're a good little troll aren't you! Adorable!

I'm pretty sure we got your pun Sorrry to steal your glory.

He has that same Bryce Young thing... too small for his position.

And? such is life in the NFL. Doesn't take away from the fact that Burns and his spidey senses were/are useless.