WOW!!

And nobody is looking to overreach for Hunter.. Plus it's hard to overreach when most draft analyst had him as a top 15 pick.. Again Nobody has Hunter as a top 15 pick.. please stop posting these stupid draft grades .. They change every year and if we actual compare .. Some of these stiffs have the same grade as HOFs.. Stop trying to use a this as your argument.. Basic facts.. 1 was considered a top 15 pick 1 isn't.. You're wrong..

No ... let me type this slowly ... I said Ebron was a better draft prospect you disagreed and did the pre teen ownege..Thing.. Ebron was a top 10 pick.. Hunter won't be close to that.. You are wrong.

We were talking about as draft prospects.. So ..... You bringing up anything other is a little off..

Other then the WR'S I like your draft better..

the fact at 30 there is a chance at drafting Hunter .. Should be a reality check for you.. Ebron was a top 10 pick ... Nobody at 30 had a chance to even consider drafting him.. Think about that before posting Pawned or drafting grades from 2 different drafts..lol

At this point if CB isn't in the top 3 picks it's a problem.. Norman is looking more like a rental these days..

He is no where near Ebron as a prospect.. You just lost all credibility..

Not a fan.. Shaq probably is a 1st rounder and really don't want a TE from one of the worst draft for TE's in years..

Corey showed up to the game .. Please somebody call Philly and see where he is at...smh

If he is that much of a mental midget then that's even worse...

Must also remember a lot of Tyrod's scrambling and running plays are being counted against the DLine and LB when they probably didn't plan for that.. Taylor was their best rusher..

Pff breakdown and Grain of salt should always be connected one way or another. ..

This is the funniest poo about the PFf con.. One year Kuchely is the most overrated player to them this year he is a perfect LB ... All while having nearly the same statistcal season both years... What a f'n load of crap.. i will never give them clowns a dime..

Pff is the biggest f'n con in sports ... these idiots can't even explain their data analysis when being interviewed. .. But now they have everybody thinking they are the bible of football analysis. .. I honestly don't understand why people give a f what they think... You guys do know that they don't know what play is called and what people jobs were on certain plays... So for example they give a player a horrible pass rushing grade when he may have been asked to stay in a lane and Contain a QB all game...

The problem is he's been a OC for more than just 2 years.. What happened the other times he was a Cordinator? ? We can also see that the offense has taken a steady decline since he has been OC.. We went from a top big play offense to meh... Ron takes some of the blame for his philosophy but Shula doesn't have a history of being a good OC either...

To all the Shula defenders... We've seen Cam be the QB for a top 10 offense and a top 5 scoring offense. . Has Shula ever been a cordinator for either of these things? ? Better Has Shula ever did this for a top 15 offense??

6. Dline depth and Secondary.... With 3/4 of the starters out we can look at the depth of the Dline and our Secondary will get a test if they have to cover longer than usual..

Defense is always ahead of offense early in TC ...

I would take any of them over Foulcant and Chandler... Again did people watch them play last year??

So you didn't see Chandler and Foulcant play last year?

With Chandler and Frenchie being the only backups option ... Granted better be kicking some tires..

I'm sorry if I'm a fan and don't agree with every move this FO does.. If there was only a place where fans can voice their displeasure with the team they cheer for??? Dam where could that place exist??? And let's be totally clear about the situation in this thread... It started as a look at how well Vonleh is doing in the Summer League.. Until the homer coalition came in to defend the almighty Cho and MJ faction... You and others didn't have a problem finding time to watch Curry thoe?? Lol

The same one Batum has worn his 7 years of MVP campaigns right?? Jarrett Dudley... Now what does that have to do with you Vonleh and your pension to be a hypocrite ??? Summer League performances don't matter unless it's Frank Kaminsky right??

You'll be looking for tall buildings when you realize Curry isn't coming won't you??? Or we will watch people make excuses for the FO when his talent comes to fruition ...

For a all star caliber player who over his career has Avg. The same as that mediocre SG.. And could just be a rental.. Fyi Jermaine O'Neal and Zac Randolph were thought to be dumb as rocks their 1st few years.. How did that workout?? So I should never see you talking about a player not on the roster right?? Oh and if you don't want to read or talk about Vonleh ... I recommend not clicking on threads with his fuging name in the title.... Lol