SmokinwithWilly

Creating seperation has always been his thing. He works hard at getting open. It's not all about speed. It's also about not tipping your hand with body language how you're going to move.

Author Smith game planning 101. Makes no fuging sense at all. Trade Miles, Hurst and TMJ for Pitts, Bijan and London.

Imagine drafting a WR, TE, and RB in the first round the past 3 years and them having 5 combined touches.

Not exactly true. All the Ravens had to do was match the contract offer and it was done. No team was going to do all that negotiating on behalf of the Ravens. The 2 firsts were only if they chose not to match the offer. If a team wanted Lamar, they were going to have to pay the asking price in picks the Ravens wanted.

Rumors were 3 1sts, at least 2 2nds plus the contract price. As bad as Fitts has been with picks, they should have made the trade. I admit, I was vehemently against it because of the estimated cost, but I severely underestimated the stupidity of this FO and incompetence of this coach staff with assembling a team. Of course, Frank would have turned Lamar into Ryan Leaf, but I digress. For the extra 40m a season, Lamar would have made the most sense.

I am positive Zod got liquored up last night and forgot what week it was.

Tell me you've been drinking without telling me you've been drinking.

I have a sick feeling Kedarious Toney is coming to Carolina.

Hire Scott Fitterer again just so I could get the one to fire him

His 3rd rounders aren't promising either

I'm not saying he is or isn't. Just an observation though that if you want to create an offensive resume, Rhule and Reich seem like 2 of the least likely candidates to help with that.

Dude has been stuck under 2 of the worst offensive coaches in the NFL. If he ever wants a chance at having a career, getting the hell out of this poo show makes sense.

Adams, their 1st and 25' 2nd and I'd be good with that.

Could be really good for a team that plays mostly on grass.

There are 100s of college players every year that did it in college effectively that watch their career end there. Just because you did it then, doesn't mean you can do it now. The premium, not elite, guys he competed against in college are now JAG on NFL teams if they made them at all. Most of the defenders can't make an NFL practice squad. He also played behind one of the best olines in college. The margin for difference and the NFL is much smaller. That's not saying BY can or cannot throw the deep ball effectively. JaMarcus Russell could throw 70 yards. He couldn't do it accurately in the NFL. Time will tell if BY can throw an accurate deep ball. To this point in time, he has not done that effectively. Whether that's play calling, clean pocket, open receivers, not being able to see over linemen, whatever, it's not being done yet. I don't give a poo about whether he has the physical ability to throw 50 yards. High school QBs can do that. I only care about can he do it at the NFL level against NFL defenses with consistency and we don't have that answer yet.

Bad batch of meatballs maybe.

A lot of the top receiving threats in the NFL aren't 1st round picks. Tyreek Hill - 5th round Davante Adams - 2nd AJ Brown - 2nd Amon Ra St Brown - 4th Keenan Allan - 3rd Cooper Kupp - 3rd Tee Higgins - 2nd and you could add Puka if you wanted in the 5th based on what he's already done. The list goes on. The one thing that makes all of these guys really special is elite separation. That's what creates a number 1, but you don't have to get them early. You do have to be able to find them though, and Fitts sucks at that. AT is on a pro bowl, possibly all pro pace right now, because even at 33, he can get open consistently. If I had to choose between a Chase and 2 JAGs or 3 ATs, I'd take the 3 ATs because they would make it easier on the QB. 3 guys that can get open are better than 1, but that's JMO.

Here's my thought process though. Of all the high scoring offenses in the NFL, how many are really built around the run you into submission mentality vs run it to keep defenses honest? The top offenses all can run, but they're far more dangerous vs the pass than the run. KC, SF, Detroit, Miami, Philly. All can run, but the receiving game is what really opens that run threat up. Seems to me like we've just got a HC and we'll see about Brown, that doesn't know how to put pieces where they would work best.

Of the top 3 tackles drafted last year, he is probably the worst suited for this type of offense. Sad really that we can't seem to pick an offensive philosophy and go with it.

I'm tired of constantly looking for these super elite WRs. Are they nice to have? Sure. But a 5th round comp rookie just set the record for catches because he just gets open. KC has no real WR1 and they're killing it in the passing game. What matters is being able to get separation from the defender. That's what we need to be chasing. Forget about having a WR1. If you have 4 guys that can be WR1 any given week, defenses are going to have a much harder time keying in on any one player.

We understand the wanting more part for damn sure.

I have no interest in a Scott Fitterer anything.

I don't care for it personally. I would rather have honest football discussion, good bad or indifferent but that's a little hard to get right now.

It was pretty well documented across the board that Bryce was the highest floor, lowest ceiling of the top 3. He was the most NFL ready to start day 1. Thats what was being said about his abilities. Not he's a rookie and you're going to need to be patient and wait 2 or 3 years. He was ready to go now. Posters who questioned this before the draft were poo'd on and called idiots because we couldn't see everything that the experts saw. We're 6 weeks in and all of a sudden that narrative has completely flipped and we need to be patient and he's only a rookie and there's growing pains and blah, blah, blah. I look at it like this. Either our GM, coaches and scouts really missed on his evaluation and his trade up value because he's not ready to be an NFL starting QB week 1 like was claimed, OR, this is what some of us thought it was and a drastic overpay for a QB that has the lowest ceiling of the 3. Either option is bad, but the first is actually worse because it involves every player this staff evaluates and not just the QB position. But now we have given up our WR1, our 23' 1st, our 24' 1st, and a 2nd just to go backwards? You don't make that trade if you can't do better than the year before, and right now we're swimming in the sewer with no way out.

But it's not just the QB. The run is a huge portion and the influence a player has overall. Bosa is more of a threat to blow up any play, every play. Burns isn't. That's not a slight on him, it's just the way it is.