SmokinwithWilly

I don't get it either. Nothing against Chuba or his work ethic. But we've seen it over and over in the NFL with Dallas, KC, Philly, etc. Build a monster Oline, which we just did, and put any back behind them and watch what happens. No name backs become stars overnight, sign a big new contract with another team, and disappear into obscurity.

We're doomed. LG & CWC agree. The apocalypse has begun.

That and you can bet that big ass paycheck came with an ironclad NDA.

I don't blame every last thing on BY, but at this point, my genuine concern is play whoever is best to develop our other talent on offense.

How do you give a poo when you're hired to do a job and have your legs taken out from under you before you even have a chance? He wasn't even allowed to have his choice of tools to do his job. That's like asking me to replace a motor and handing me a hammer.

Even before the draft, BY was supposed to have the highest floor but had the lowest ceiling of the top 3. Just turned out that Stroud's floor was higher than Young's ceiling from the start.

Part of why I want to see Plummer play if/when BY is benched again. Let's see if he's backup material or not in a real game scenario. Who knows, maybe he balls out, most likely not. Either way, we evaluate and move on or he's our next backup QB. It's time this team got serious about the QB position.

I guess breaking an NFL record just doesn't carry the same weight it used to.

Kind of hard to give a poo when the owner cuts your balls off in front of the NFL on draft day. BY wasn't Frank's pick. Stroud was a far better fit for the type of offense Frank liked to run.

I find what he's done less than impressive. We've got a historically bad defense, an offense that can barely average 2 tds a game, and a QB that wouldn't be on a practice squad after last season if he wasn't the 1st overall pick. The biggest issue I have is going into the season without bringing in competition for BY. As a former MLB, there is no way he looked at BYs footage and said this guy is so good he shouldn't have any camp competition, only to have him benched after 2 games. We dumped an insane amount of resources to answer a question this MB already knew the answer to, BY ain't it, and for what, 2 wins against terrible defenses? And the best he's looked so far came against a shitting of the bed so bad it literally set an NFL record. What we're seeing from this team is not good. Maybe we've gotten a few possible good pieces, but this overall team is not impressive in the slightest.

He's not looking so bad these last couple drives.

Absolutely fixed.

If/when BY puts up another stinker, I'd rather see Plummer. Dalton is what he is. Maybe Plummer plays better and shows he's worth keeping as a backup QB/flex starter. What do we have to lose at this point?

Don't hate on the 300lb girl. No drama. No questions about what you're after. Probably knows more tricks than you've even heard of. Ain't no shame there bro.

We're going to trade Horn, Brown and 2 1sts to go to 1 to draft Bo Callahan.

We 2-7 and the only 2 times we've looked mildly competitive have been against 2 of the worst defenses in the NFL. He helped assemble this turd with his buddy Scott. I'll sing his praises when we actually have back to back winning seasons.

I bet for BY to have under 200 yards passing and for the L. Had to admit I was a little worried but still broke even.

No. So we'll claim the moral victories and they still won't matter. Just like every other feel good win when you're season was over before it began.

It's possible Stroud will have had more wins in his first season then bryce will in his entire career

We can't trade BY for anything less than a 1st because we still have to pay the 33rd pick for him. If we trade him for less than what we owe we're going to look like the laughing stock of the NFL. Oh wait...

1) Signed 2 high profile guards to big contracts. Did we need guards? Yes. But there's a reason you draft guards and pay tackles. It's easier to find solid guards in the draft. Now we have the most expensive line in the league and still can't get 100 yards passing before halftime. 2) Traded up to get a RB when we didn't really need one. Chuba is one of the better RBs in the league right now and while it is a contract year, we had a crap ton of holes all over. Brooks was a luxury pick we didn't have the luxury to make. 3)Spending a small fortune to build a supporting cast for BY. Bryce didn't even put the work in himself during the offseason by his own admission. We didn't need to build an offense specifically for BY. We brought in DJ and drafted XL. These guys need a QB with a live arm. That's not BY. Speed kills but not when your QB can't legitimately make an accurate, deep ball strike without putting a ton of air under it and floating it. 4. Not looking for a true center. There were several available and it's been a position of need for years. We could have had our choice but we rolled with Corbitt, who did look good at the spot, but had an injury bug that struck again this year. 5) He didn't bring in any serious competition for Bryce. Now you can say that BY needs time to develop and we needed to show we had faith in him, blah blah blah. But the simple matter of fact is Bryce looked like a PS QB last year, Andy has one foot in the QB grave, and there was never an attempt to actually compete for the job. If he genuinely believed that BY was going to magically make it all come together watching YT and chillin for 4 months to unplug, then there's nothing else that needs to be said. The goal of every GM should be to build a winning team. Players are commodities and loyalty leads you to an early walk out the door. We've tried to build a system to work around the most limited QB in NFL history. 60 years of history should have told him it was never going to work. And benching BY after 2 games is the real truth, he never should have been starting anyway. And either Dan should have known that as the great MLB that he was after watching BY's game tape, or someone else is making the call and Dan is just rubberstamping that decision. Either way, doesn't matter. We're screwed because we've devoted 2 years of resources to build around a player that didn't put in the work in the off season after one of the worst NFL QB seasons ever.

That 50 air yards pass to Tank Dell on broken coverage was something we haven't seen from Bryce. He didn't have to wind up or hop or contort himself just to make it possible. He threw a thing of beauty while scrambling and it was money. In one of his worst games he did something we are still waiting to see.

We didnt have someone in our area put drugs in candy but they did bugs in some homemade candy. Not like I would have let the kids eat something wrapped in seran wrap but it was still a messed up thing to do.

Gonna be hard to keep a good locker room when we are out of the game after the 1st quarter. These guys don't go through what they do to be part of a perennial loser and that's what the Tepper Panthers are.

But it does equal a Panthers GM.