SmokinwithWilly

Thats getting overturned

Missed the illegal hands to the face by JSN though.

I think the qualification has changed over time though. A deep ball play used to take 4 to 6 seconds for the receiver to get to that spot on the field. Now a receiver can be there in 2.5. That's less time than most QBs have to set and throw. In my mind a deep route takes time to develop. A crossing route and a deep route can't take the same amount of time at full speed. You can have 4 deep balls on the same drive, almost 5 if you do 5 20 yard throws goal line to goal line. That doesn't even make sense when you say it out loud.

Kind of strange that half a yard outside the red zone, a TD toss is considered a deep throw.

I don't know if they were or not. The one thing I do know is they were all more viable than ancient Andy Dalton. It's just very strange optics. Even if you believe Bryce is the guy, injuries happen. You don't want to lose your playoff run because you couldn't be bothered to try and improve your QB room at all. I know it was lightning in a bottle, but the Eagles won a SB with Foles when Wentz went down. You gotta improve the room when the opportunity presents itself for next to nothing, relatively speaking.

Options were available. Anyone who saw Andy play last year knew he was cooked and another offseason wasn't going to turn back the clock any. The problem was if Bryce started off cold, which he did, and a backup like Brissett, Jameis, or even god forbid Wilson came in and outperformed Bryce after another benching or phantom injury, it was possible he never saw the field again. That could never even be in the realm of possibilities. It was all in with Bryce this year, but we really didnt need to put Dalton on a 2 year contract. If we give Bryce the 5th year, I expect Dalton will get a year extension to carry him through Bryce's contract term.

I think the windows are so small now teams are shooting their shots when they think they have a chance. 1st rounders aren't a guarantee of elite talent, plenty of flops, especially in the back half. You just got to hope you get it right. If not. Oh wee man.

I remember the asking price for Lamar. 3 1sts and 3 2nds and 50m a year with the new contract and Lamar wanted the team to build around him. It was an impossible ask.

Kinda reminiscent of the S2 test pre draft.

JMO, but a deep ball passing threat has to be able to make that throw anytime, from anywhere on the field. Bryce has been able to make some deep passes, we've seen it. He's dropped some beauties. I still don't consider him a premier deep ball threat because he can't make that throw from everywhere. He's not stepping up into a crowded pocket and making a deep throw. To be elite, that throw can't only come from certain spots and under certain conditions.

Will Grier was the worst telegraphed draft pick of all time for us. It was common knowledge we were taking him at 100 if he was available for at least a month.

I think NIL is going to continue to make this worse. It's the new lottery ticket. 4 years to make as much money as possible so stats matter more than developing. The NFL isn't the guaranteed payday compared to NIL now. Handing a young man in his late teens early 20s hundreds of 1000s of dollars, what could possibly go wrong. I just keep seeing little Johnny Manzels on the horizon.

Merry Christmas my Huddle compadres

Channel your inner Juan

Because adding 20 lbs makes it harder to throw

Any given Sunday. Like I said, I wouldn't consider them a fraud. They're a team that's suffered a lot of injuries. We've been fortunate not to have suffered so many at our skill positions. I'd say the same of any team that suffered a ton of injuries. Whichever WR finished best likely gets OROY but I wouldn't count out Jeanty yet if he puts together 2 great final games. He's done a pretty remarkable job behind that rag tag line in Las Vegas.

I'd say we've been less decimated by injury if we're being honest. Godwin, Evans, Irving, Baker. Bucs offense has been walking wounded for much of the season. That's the nature of the NFL and you play with what you've got. I wouldn't call them frauds though.

How we weren't willing to roll the dice on Wilson but were on Brooks remains a mystery.

XL needs the ball with room to run or to try to outrun someone. He's a bigger version of Ted Ginn with worse hands, no route tree and no boundary sense.

Welcome to the Huddle

He's gonna be able to talk about his grandkid watching him play in the NFL.

No need to at this point. Vet min is almost 1.2 for him and he wouldn't be back until late in the season if at all. It would be a waste of cap space. Unfortunate, but reality of the game.

Yosh will replace BC at swing. I like BC but his time as a Panther may be done. Achilles injuries are a lot to overcome, especially that late in the season to even have a chance at next year.

Costs the same to cut him as keep him. On the list of dumb things to do, this is up there

First thing. Can he catch the damn ball. Nope. Off the board. Yes. Move on to evaluation step 2.