SmokinwithWilly

I've always thought it had something to do with Tepper meddling. The before and after draft of Frank shows a man with 2 different attitudes. I think he just couldn't trust his boss and gave up interest. It's hard to be a leader when you know you can't trust the guy paying your salary to not go behind your back and cut your legs out from under you.

There was a huge problem between Cam and Smitty. Smitty has been pretty open about this and how he didn'twant tonplay with Cam when he was drafted. Cam couldn't be the leader of the team with Smitty here.

What really happened with Frank, Tepper.and the whole QB situation that led to Frank's dismissal.

He doesnt put up elite numbers? He puts up bottom of the league numbers. There is zero consistency in his game. You can't have a qb that shows up once every 4 games.Those guys are starters until their replacement is found. Honestly, he's worth about 4m per season because that's what backups are getting.

So he became GM and decided not to address the weakness in the QB room following one of the worst rookie QB performances in NFL history? There were options last season other than signing Dalton to a 2 year deal. Brissett and Jones by a wide margin, both of whom outplayed Bryce, Wilson, Winston, hell even Rivers off the couch was more exciting at the QB position. The time to address the failure in the QB room was last year but instead people on the Huddle cheered when we brought Dalton back then cheered when we were able to get anything for him after they finally realized he was washed up like a few of had been saying all along and got poo'd for even mentioning. This year, the options were more limited obviously, especially since we lost Icky. It changed the dynamic of our draft. I think we were stuck this year keeping Bryce, but i still think giving him a 5th year option for what has amounted to replacement worthy performance was the wrong move. Why guarantee 25m if you're planning to replace him? You think he's going to want to be a bridge QB? Hell no. He's going to want out and we'll end up cutting him if he has another lackluster season because no one is trading for him with that price tag. Were there better options as far as production available. A couple. Were there guys available with more physical tools than Bryce, Pickett or Grier, you damn well better believe there were. I've been saying all along, you always keep looking for your 1b. Bryce has yet to prove he can be a starter. Keep looking for someone who may. Put competition in camp. Let the best QB lead the team. Stop settling for less than mediocre.

Actually, don't care if it's Bryce or anyone else. Not taking addressing our QB room seriously the past 2 off seasons is inexcusable. We should have done it last year after Dalton cratered. We didn't. This year, well we have KP and Grier and our Taysom Hill. I want better from our QB room. Getting 200 yards a game should be the floor, not a ceiling.

Umm yeah. When did he get it done at the right time? I seem to remember a 4-6 finish and needing Atlanta to win our way into the playoffs but whatever.

As long as he doesnt go ZZ Top and get tackled by it, whatever.

I called it.

If we had a week 1 MNF they'd find a way to flex us out.

Week 1 will be Car vs Houston at Houston. Stroud vs Bryce in an epic SB preview.

We're talking about Panthers football and under tepper, we've had 8 straight losing seasons. We have reason to analyze what they're doing because so far, we haven't won poo. I'm not some Browns fan that will cheer failure just because their my team. We love football and we love this team. I for one am sick and tired of a winning season once every 4 years on average. Win some games. Win back to back seasons. Win with some god damn consistency in how you play. Do that and I guarantee the "whining" will stop. Until then, this team, it's owner, GM, players and coaches are free game for criticism. I dont support losing. There are no participation trophies in the NFL and we damn sure shouldn't act like a winner because we got one each of the last 8 years.

I am a billion % sure he is the father... It was an honest mistake.

1a. Drafted Tom Brady in the 5th round. 1b. Might be an unpopular opinion, but when Reid was let go in Philly, k would have fired Rivera and brought him in. It was obvious he was an offensive genius. Coaches like Reid don't come available often.

You could always watch the PFC on ESPN the Ocho.

I've been saying this for quite a while. There a pattern involved in all the transactions and camp/season activity that doesn't make sense unless you factor in than the GM/coach have been overruled from above. I remember that during the hiring process it was widely rumored that Bryce had to be the guy as part of the hiring process and him staying there was a condition. Whether that's true or not, who knows for certain, but it does fall in line with a lot of the moves we've made regarding our QB room over the last 3 off seasons.

^^^^ This. Plus, even if you have a superstar, keep trying to find a 1B. One bad hit can end a career. Joe Theismann is a perfect example of this. Worst thing that can happen is a team trades for your backup if he shows out in a game or 2.

Brissett outperformed Bryce in only 12 games starting, Minshew is the equivalentof KP and Beck at least has possibilities unlike Grier. Interesting how Arizonas QB room is worse than our

My biggest issue is the footwork and that jump pass thing. He doesn't plant and throw on a consistent basis and you see it in his throws. Those jump balls have a lot of air under them giving defenders time to close and/or jump the route. I've heard him called out on it several times by commentators when watching games.

We don't like below average QB performance. The name of the QB is irrelevant.

Keep on bringing them in. If they don't got the goods, try another one. Only way to find a gem is if we keep on digging.

I remember reading that it's sometimes better to go undrafted than going in the 6th or 7th because the offers you get can actually pay more and the likelihoodof making the team is still roughly the same. Offering the most is how we got Coker.

FiFY

We know the story. Tepper hired Frank. Frank thought he would get to pick his guy after the trade. Tepper overruled him because of a play broken down over a sald. Frank got pissed and didnt GAF anymore, Dave made him sign NDA and paid him millions to go away.

Well, at least we added a seasoned safety to our team...