SmokinwithWilly

Bridgewater doesn't help any trade. He's our Brock Osweiler.

Why couldnt Hurney have just traded for Watson last offseason before we signed TB and Billy O'B was fired? We could have gotten Watson for a 3rd and a handful of magic beans.

Brady. I think he elevates the entire team moreso than Rodgers. 28-3. Brady plays like he doesn't believe any game is ever lost. His drive to succeed is unparalleled.

Jenkins was HoF talent. Just at Golden Corral with KB.

Oh I dont disagree. I just think some people may just be short sighted and think he's a product of Mahomes, Hill and Kelce rather than how good he really is. If something happens to Rhule and EB is available I hope he's our first call.

I’ve had a couple of thoughts on this. Andy Reid is considered to be a QB whisperer and I think he gets credit sometimes when it may not be deserved. Likewise, Mahomes is a freak of nature talented QB and I think he gets some of the credit when it should fall to EB. Add to that the talent of Hill and Kelce and I think he might be getting considered the product of the players. That said without a doubt I think he should be getting calls to be an NFL HC. EB was on my short list last year. With regard to Brady I think he’s riding the LSU hype. I knew it wasn’t going to be long because he was a hot commodity last year when Rhule added him. He’s young, energetic, and could be the next Sean Mcvay.

Out here it is a bidding war. Housing market is up between 150% to 400% from 2 years ago. Houses are being put up for preview for a week and sold within hours of listing often for 30-40k over asking. Prices for basic starter house no amenities other than 4 walls and some cheap ass carpet are $250 a sq. ft. to start.

In some ways we are better prepared to respond, and in some ways we aren't. The world has become a place where a few seconds of notoriety is worth whatever lies you want to spew. There's no recourse for what someone says on Facebook or through their own podcast. Misinformation is rampant and has caused issues worldwide. The truth tellers of this virus have been there since the beginning but has been drowned out by the noise. Isolate the elderly and those with weakened immune systems. The rest of us can take reasonable precautions such as masks, distancing, etc. and the world keeps on turning. Something else to consider to is the population itself. We are less able to provide for ourselves today than 100 years ago. Cities have always been unable to provide for the masses, but the more rural and less populated areas didn't interact nearly as much as we do now. Mass transportation was in its infancy, families grew a lot of food for themselves, and population density was a lot lower. While we may have the ability to care for each other better with a more effective health care system, the ability to isolate ourselves and prevent the need for that health care is far lower than it was 100 years ago.

The really sad part is if the DNC had nominated a paper bag instead of HRC, that paper bag could have been turned into a cover for a science book and we likely be in better shape with Covid.

You do realize you and I are on the same side and have been. You asked a question and I gave you an answer you don't like. You are however ignoring the fact that millions are listening to politicians on both sides who are using this as a power play instead of trying to keep people safe with the truth. That is the reality we are in. Maybe how its being treated there is different than here. Here its been used to control people through ignorance. Make them to scared to think for themselves. But then again the truth isn't nearly as terrifying as what we've been told. But not as terrifying doesn't sell. And people have seen through the bullshit and now trust nothing that they are being told by those claiming to have the information. Those whose position would give them the information. I am well aware there are places to find accurate information, and most of it seems to be from outside the US. I just don't think we should have to search for the truth, especially when it has been ridiculously obvious. It is the duty of politicians and reporters to share the truth. It is the responsibility of medical professionals not to speak on news outlets that value clicks more than truth. If you speak from a platform whose foundations are built on lying, you lose credibility and no one will listen even when you speak the truth.

So CNN, FOX MSNBC and the thousands of other news networks have no responsibility for what the "news" they report as fact? That's like saying that you bear no responsibility for someone getting trampled after you scream fire in a crowded theater. You can say anything you want as long as free speech, right. Truth be damned. And that's exactly how you get to where this country is right now.

The rest of the world didn't make it so damn political. This country has never been more divided politically. Media outlets don't even care about truth, just money. This citizens of this country have been lied to by so many for so long there is zero trust or faith in anything anymore. Even in a time when logic should tell us to come together, we just can't. What you're seeing is the result of decades of lying without consequences or liability.

Don't worry. They'll surrender.

Then Trump must have been wearing a mask 24/7 for years. It's the only logical explanation for that level of stupidity.

Maybe you don't recall the commercials telling people to stop hoarding toilet paper. Or setting up special times to allow the elderly to shop because they couldn't get what they need unless they got there first. Or how about empty shelves in every store. No bleach, no sanitizer. No basic necessities. Signs in every store limiting what could be bought. Massive layoffs because companies had to close the doors. Because that stuff didn't happen right. 300 million people just imagined all of it. If we shut down the economy even more than before, none of that would ever happen again. I never said Covid couldn't be slowed, but it has not been outright wiped out. Some countries like New Zealand are able to isolate themselves. America will not. Once they open themselves back up, all it's going to take is one infected person to introduce it back into the country unless there is a vaccine. Covid is not the severity of pandemic I'm talking about. It's a baby compared to what could potentially spread worldwide. Our population outright panicked for a virus that is asymptomatic in 80% of people. Replace Covid with something 10x as deadly and more contagious and yes, the world is absolutely ripe for a pandemic. Our world is not ready for a supply chain collapse due to a far more deadly pandemic.

I don't give 2 flying fugs about the NFL this season or any other. It's a form of entertainment and in no way mandatory for me to live. This country has already witnessed the hysteria caused by a partial shutdown. Shut it all down and watch what happens. Burying your head in the sand and believing in the good of humanity will provide you nothing to eat or drink when trucks aren't moving and warehouses are empty. I watched people camping out on shelves for toilet paper. There wasn't sharing and hugs and rah rah rah across the vast majority of this nation. Wait until people can't get food or water. Imagine the superdome after Katrina in NYC. That's what shutting it all down really means. Anarchy.

And not even remotely possible. How do you think all that food and medical supplies arrived? It takes hundreds of thousands of people interacting across the nation. You think you saw panic and shortages the first time? Do it again. Except there won't be people at manufacturing jobs making essentials, or producing food, or distributing it because they are all stuck at home. Unless of course they need to work be at work because they are expendable to provide you with what you need so you can be safe and secure. And then we aren't all in this together. Only the ones who aren't expendable are. How long do you think Charlotte will survive if the people that run the pumps that supply the city's water stay home for their own safety and their family's safety. What happens when automation fails and it will. What then? The world is ripe for a pandemic of this nature. We have highly concentrated populations in closed areas with no means of self sufficiency other than to interact with other people. People are going to die from this. A lot have and a lot more will before it burns itself out. Lock everything down and freeze the economy and watch it collapse. Then you will see death and destruction on a far greater scale than what covid has done/is doing. People will feast on each other in the name of self preservation. People need to accept reality. People are dying and will continue to do so until we either herd immunity or develop a vaccine. In the meantime, stop making covid some political tool for power and money. This is about damage mitigation. Mother nature is a far more ruthless killer than we give her credit.

I'm not listening to them but a LOT of people are. I can't get my mom to turn off CNN and FOX. She is so paranoid that its ridiculous. At work I hear "I saw on Facebook...." Trump I can't even watch. That's probably 95% of the country's source of listened to information. It's no wonder people don't believe a damn thing they hear. Unfortunately the truth doesn't get ratings because it's boring. Wash your hands, the virus is airborne and while masks aren't 100% they help, and keep social distance. 10 seconds of boring info that has more truth than an hour of the other 3 out together.

Imo, the real cause of all of the issues with people following guidelines or not is the source of information we are supposed to trust are the biggest group of liars in the country.

Friend of the family was just notified by a "tracer" that he was positive for Covid. The weird part is he was never tested. He was 3 degrees from someone who had tested positive. He was also told 19 other people had been confirmed positive who had also not been tested but had 1 or 2 degrees removed from the one that had. If true, and I have no reason to believe hes lying, that's a very strange way to confirm cases.

Common sense can triumph. Simple truthful information is what people need and understand most. Shutdowns need to be controlled by counties/cities rather than a blanket code for an entire state. Too bad we didn't do this from the beginning.

Here's the thing though. More businesses here have been closed permanently than cases of covid-19. We have been interacting with other people all along, just no one wants to really admit it. After 5 months there has to be more than what's happened. People are over the fearmongering and the sky is falling. If they get sick, they get sick. They have accepted the risks and are willing to take them. They aren't going to exist cowered in their homes waiting for someone to say it's safe now. Covid-19 is not the boogeyman it was made out to be and people aren't scared of it anymore. Maybe they will be at some point, but it isn't right now.

I'm speaking for myself and the more rural area where I live, but people aren't seeing the massive fallout that was promised. We were basically promised an airborne Ebola death wave and ended up with a more contagious and a little more deadly flu that you may or may not get and we wont even test you for it anyway. They aren't being irrational. It's been a lot of "you shut me down and destroyed my business for this?" A lot of response is based on experience and when your experiences and the people you know are next to nil, its not going to generate what you consider to be arational response.

It doesn't all just fall on Trump. Pelosi is one of the leaders of the Democratic party. People will listen to her that wont listen to Trump. She acted foolishly. The point I'm making is that politicians are making political moves without regard for those they are meant to lead. It's not just Trump or Pelosi, its governors, mayors, city councilmen, etc. Lives have been upended and businesses ruined for no need. They were already doing the things necessary to flatten the curve without political grandstanding. People have little reason to trust those with the information after everything that has been said and done. There was no need to create panic. There was no need to lie to people. The truth has been so blatantly obvious since the beginning that a blind man could see it. This is especially in more rural areas where the population isn't as densely compact, things don't really work the way they do in Charlotte and other major metropolitan areas. The mass hysteria and panic created by the media for clicks and the self serving actions of those in leadership for political safety have eroded the faith of the populace at large. People have that they will likely contract covid-19, but they most likely will not even notice, or symptoms will be minor. Covid hasn't lived up to the hype and hysteria and now people aren't going to listen to it anymore. You can't lie for this long and expect people to believe you. And that's especially true for Trump

It's not just Trump that has lied from the beginning. Remember Pelosi advocated for everyone to come join her for the party in Chinatown because it was safe. Politicians from both sides have poo the bed with this and the really sad part is the common sense solutions that normal every day people were using before the shutdowns are now mandatory for reopening. Maybe, just maybe, we aren't as stupid as the media and politicians have made us out to be.