SmokinwithWilly

They said there's no fire sale happening. Burns will be traded tomorrow.

Picks take time to develop. The owner is a hot mess. The only fan base at home games belongs to the other team. The Carolina Panthers HC job is not an attractive one right now. The culture in Carolina is TOXIC.

But what rebuild plans do we really have. We need a HC, new OC, new direction on offense and just traded away our best offensive piece by far. How do we attract a good HC candidate with what we're doing?

I've always considered Shanahan to be the OC. It's his offense they're running.

You almost have to wonder if DJ is going to even bother suiting up on Sunday. This team has mailed it in. The tank is on in full. PJ Walker, Foreman, and an offense play book from high school.

With an offensive coordinator that actually knows what the fug he's doing

Over/under Panthers don't gain 1500 yards the rest of the season

Yep. We're going to get a great coaching candidate with our QB1 Matt Corral RB1 Chuba Hubbard WR1 TMJ cuz you know DJ is going next TE1 Ian Thomas For fugs sake...

depends on how they finish the season. It could be a very late picks in those rounds

If we don't get a haul Fitts need to be fired immediately

We fugging suck

A 3rd and a 5th that could escalate if they reach the SB. So then it would still essentially be a 3rd and a 5th and we eat 23m in dead cap? C'mon man.

Maybe we could trade Tremble for Pitts since all Atlanta seems to want to do is run and we need a TE that can catch. Hell I'll even throw in Ben McAdoo and Chuba.

Agreed. But the reason they had to extend was they had just given up those picks and it didn't make sense if it was only a one year rental. The Darnold trade and 5th year was poo but it was driven by a lack of direction headed by Rhule and signed off by Tepper. You just can't put yourself in that position and realistically expect to come out ahead and we did it 3 freaking times.

They spent it because they had to save face. Tepper made a mess and it had to get cleaned up. They had to look like they were at least doing something to get better, because restructuring all those deals made things a lot worse. The RA deal was crap. We all know it. But mortgaging your teams financial future to go after a guy who never had any interest in playing for this team unless there was no other option was stupid. Darnold is gone after this year so the 19m on this years disappears too.

Part of the reason we are in cap hell sits right with the man responsible for hiring Rhule. In order to trade for Watson, we had to make the cap space available. All that restructuring and BS associated with it was the responsibility of one David Tepper. And if we fire Fitts, Tepper will be in charge of finding the guys to consult, then hire the GM and the HC. Fitts has been average, but Tepper has poo the bed, all over the walls, and the floors.

With no leverage. T2G was out the door and Rhule had made us desperate. That's not a position of strength to be negotiating from. The Jets could say no and we would still have to pursue it because the only other option was PJ Magic. The trade sucked for damn sure and I wanted no part of Darnold. I would have rather had Minshew for a 5th.

Developing any player and not just relying on their athletic abilities would be a big, big boost.

If he goes and lights it up, we might have to consider that Rhule and the leadership in this franchise is a problem. We are seeing now from T2G.

Panthers get the 1st pick and all good college QBs are staying put.

I ate some questionable cold cuts today that have resulted in the dog leaving the room due to air quality. This game stunk worse.

Because I want players to stay. We aren't going to be able to attract a good HC if all the offensive pieces are done and want out. Robbie is done but he has been. DJ looks like he doesn't care. We're going to end up creating a toxic environment no one wants to be part of.

Our offense is a hot mess. It's predictable. It's elementary. Its boring. There is nothing dangerous about it other than causing someone to fall asleep on the job. I know they say replacing an OC mid-season and implementing a new offense is difficult but how hard is it to upgrade this mess and implement some new schemes. McAdoo ain't it. This isn't a knee jerk reaction thread. I'm serious. How hard would it be to implement a new offensive scheme or get a new OC to expand the one we have? I realize getting anyone here would be very difficult given our current situation. But we can't keep doing this if we want anyone to not request a trade out of this hot mess.

It also has to do with his weight loss this year to be more effective. He was never really going to be a run stuffer dlineman.