SmokinwithWilly

And there's no way to guarantee he won't put himself in the same position again. We'd basically be bailing the Texans out of a huge jam and assuming all the risk. It's an extreme risk/moderate reward scenario. We could land our franchise QB and have no real assets, cap or picks, to build around him. It would likely take 3 or 4 years to build a team that could be capable of making the playoffs, and if not, then what. Watson says he's not playing here anymore and demands a trade or refuses to sign his franchise tag? This just isn't a good move all the way around.

Depends on how it's resolved. If he's cleared of charges and the civil matter isn't resolved by a huge payout, then no, I'll still be a fan of the Panthers. If there is a civil settlement and/or a plea arrangement, and we still trade for him, then yes, I will still walk away.

I will walk away from this franchise as a fan should we trade for Watson before any of this is actually resolved. If you have ever known anyone that has been assaulted, and unfortunately I do, you know what a destructive force this can be on their lives. To ignore what he has been accused of simply because he can throw a ball would leave a stench on this franchise that wouldn't easily, if ever, be washed away. Right now, Watson is a player than cannot and should not be touched.

Panther nation will look like Jets fans do almost every year when we take Pickett

He didn't deserve the last one. That belonged to Kupp hands down.

I live out in Seahawks country. Don't think I won't be using it often.

They would have a 2nd Lombardi, but Carroll decided to pass on that opportunity.

A team would probably have to give up 1sts and 2nds for the next 3 years, 50m a year in salary, and players to get Rodgers because hes the reigning MVP. Kupp should have won it, but that's position politics. Trading for Rodgers would be for a win now shot because the price tag would decimate the team. Either that or you trust your GM to nail rounds 3-7 and UDFA to be able to compete for the next 4 years. Rodgers also won't draw the FAs for less like Brady did. My point is how many teams are willing, able, and have the stock to trade that are in position to win now. And then you also have to hope his drama queen attitude doesn't come into play. It's a lot of factors and they all come into play to different extents.

How tradable is Rodgers though? We all know he's a talent and 4 time MVP, but from all reports he's also a colossal asshole and that can ruin a locker room. I'm not saying there's not teams that wouldn't trade a boatload for him, including us. I just wonder how much his attitude would play into any trade talks.

I know Houston wants a haul but right now I wouldn't even give a 1st for Watson. There's no guarantee he ever plays another down in the NFL. All the civil suits plus criminal complaints make his future anything but certain. It's also not far fetched that if Houston wants to get serious about building a competitive team and Watson doesn't get traded, he may be cut for cap room at the end of next season if his legal matters aren't resolved. Not to mention how many fans, especially female, are going to feel knowing that we don't care about whether or not you may be a sexual predator as long as you can throw a football. We should stay the hell from Watson until all of this is sorted out.

And would be on the commissioners exempt list before the season started

I get it, it's just hard to preach about the NFL protecting the integrity of the game when they themselves don't.

After the debacle this year I was sure Rhule was on his way out the door. I'm not sure what it would take for him to get fired at this point. Obviously performance isn't one of those factors. We set tied/set the NFL record for the worst finish after a 3-0 start. We were embarrassed multiple times by teams that were equal or worse. We've spent multiple draft picks and a lot of cap space on guys that aren't or never were good. I seriously don't know what it would take for Tepper to wake up and see how bad the situation really is, but whatever "IT" is scares the crap out of me in regards to the team's future.

It is on the same level as pro wrestling. It's listed as entertainment company. It doesn't even have to follow it's own rules, just show a game. Those outcomes can be manipulated or rigged. Let's not pretend that there haven't been many games influenced by the NFL referees.

Betting while not playing seems like a minor infraction unless it was on the games the Falcons were playing. Of all the crap that goes on in the NFL on an annual basis, Snyder, Kraft, deflategate, bountygate, PEDs and this is where the NFL is going to lay down a hard penalty? I'm sure it's against the rules, but it seems pretty steep to suspend him for a year.

The ridiculous flops kill it for me. Maybe it's different in person but on TV you can tell they're faking 90% of the time. At least hockey has an embellishment penalty to try and keep that out of the game.

Worst OL and our prize FA last year were hand picked because of their versatility on the line. Too bad they suck. And it's not like we didn't have options to start someone else, but Rhule tried to convert BC into a G/C and kept Brown on the bench in favor of Miller. Let's not pretend like we didn't have any options. We had them. Rhule was just to stubborn to realize they were there, at least until now when he says he should have played BC at LT more like everyone had been saying since preseason.

We have a plan. poo the bed. poo it again. poo all over the place.

He had a chance for a ridiculous payday to be set for the rest of his life. Fans can talk Loyalty all they want but an extra $20-30m would make them all a lot less loyal to a team that could cut you at any minute.

If he did he might realize there's been more football sense here than in his HC office.

When a collective Huddle vote could get more personnel decisions correct than our current HC, theres not going to be much to feel good about here.

I was referring more to his ability to take off out of the pocket like Mahomes or Allen. He ran like a giraffe on ice.

Yeah, we got fleeced. We gave up Kyle Allen for a 5th and got Darnold for a 2nd, 4th and 6th. Allen was definitely better.

Darnold is actually a very good example of this. He has the physical tools. He doesn't have the mental capacity to read a defense pre snap. Peyton Manning was about as immobile a QB as I can ever remember but his ability to disect a defense was unrivaled. Do you want your QB to be able to scramble? Absolutely. Do I want my QB taking unnecessary hits running? Absolutely not. I'll take cerebral over mobile any day. I'd rather my $15m WR get hit than my $40m QB. They're a more easily acquired commodity. We all want a Mahomes, Allen or Jackson. The real interesting thing will be how long their careers last. I firmly believe Cam's prime was shortened by the massive amount of hits he took. I don't think there's a Mahomes or Allen in this years draft. I also don't think there's a Brady or Manning. Maybe in a couple of years, with the right coaching. We don't have that coaching or that kind of time.