SmokinwithWilly

Not so sure about that. The Hornets are as close to a certainty to screw up a 1st round pick as I have ever seen.

He was always a project QB and we traded up to acquire him. He has had almost no real reps and was in the dog house with Rhule for whatever reason. That said, it doesn't hurt anything at all to bring him into camp and let him learn with some people who actually know what an offense looks like. We have nothing to lose by keeping him on the roster through training camp, and possibly into the season depending on how he does against Eason. If he's that bad, stick him on the PS and if he gets poached, then so be it.

Knowing BB, he would probably end up trading the TE/LB hybrid away and end up with a 3rd or 4th round pick somehow.

Not everyone was available. I suspect they will though.

I predict we will have a starting QB this year that has never taken a regular season snap for the Panthers

If he does he does. Just will go to prove even more that you need offensively driven coaches to thrive.

There's probably a parallel universe somewhere where the Panthers just traded 3 1sts and 3 2nds for future HoF QB Will Grier too.

We could, but we would look extremely foolish if we did. And that puts us back into desperation mode again trying to negotiate for a QB. That's exactly how we got taken to the cleaners for Darnold. Rhule had already played his hand with T2G and we had no options really other than PJ. And I have no desire to bail out Baltimore or Jackson at this point unless we got to take them to the cleaners.

They are. But teams don't give up 2 1sts, 2 2nds and a WR1/2 under a team friendly contract to draft one. Especially when they have Andy Dalton as their best starter.

Not really. 2 years at most. If we don't think whoever we picked is the guy after 2 seasons, we have our 25 first to go after another QB.

That would put us without our 24, 25 and 26 1sts, 2 2nds and DJ Moore, plus Lamar's contract at 50m per year with a high guaranteed amount. If we did something like this I'd consider the Darnold trade a great deal in comparison. You don't move to 1 giving up what we did for an edge rusher. And you damn sure don't give LJ everything the Ravens want and he wants when there are zero other suitors in play. He has screwed this up so badly I don't think he's going to see 133m guaranteed offered again by any team. Teams have been told they can't negotiate with a non registered agent. He's lost every bit of leverage at this point. Baltimore is holding every advantage and if we bailed them and him both out, the entire front office, including Reich should be fired immediately.

You would dismiss the Eagles and 49ers to just average teams so easily? I don't know that we'd be instant SB favorites. That contract and loss of picks would mean gaping holes at some critical positions over the next few years, not to mention it ignores missing significant playing time the past 2 seasons to even warrant a massive guaranteed contract. I don't think the owners are colluding at all. Lamar has dealt with his career from a monetary standpoint very poorly since draft day. His own ignorance is being taken advantage of and rightly so. This is the business side of the NFL and in this area, he's been no MVP.

He kind of gives me Casey at the Bat vibes. It's gonna be a monstrous home run or a monumental strike out.

We've been through this before...

It's a much longer time frame, but this is very similar to how things went with Norman except for Gettleman rescinding the tag and getting nothing in compensation. A highly inexperienced "agent" negotiating a monster contract against professional NFL contract negotiators. It was never going to go well.

If he doesn't get an agent soon we may be able to get him for a handful of magic beans.

That's what bourbon and poor choices are for.

That's what I've been saying for a while. He's lost more than he ever saved by not having one. I'd say at least 3-4x more.

His agent was his mom. She may have had his best interests at heart but was completely out of her element negotiating a massive NFL contract. If LJ had hired an agent day 1 he would already have been paid.

Watching what's happened with LJ is a lesson to every other player about trying to do it yourself with a mega contract and what not to do. He has botched this just about every way possible.

The fact we went into FA without having to guess how many former Rhule players would be making the roster this year was a relief.

What til they get to enjoy "The Process". Matt may be a good college coach but that OOU BS doesn't work in the NFL.

I always thought it was worth discussing if the terms were favorable and it gave a rookie QB a chance to transition similar to what Mahomes did. They weren’t even close to favorable, so yeah, we’re better off with him in NO.

The topic was always about team building, and we disagreed drastically, especially about Lamar and Rodgers. Its all good. The sad part in all of this is how severely Lamar has hurt himself by not getting an agent. Going for a rookie QB has always been the best option as long as we didn’t ridiculously overpay, which we didn’t. Now it’s just a matter of getting it right.

Carr was never worth what he got paid. These FA contracts are getting ridiculous.