SmokinwithWilly

Hurney 2.0 and Fitts were so bad I don't know if it was intentional or they were that abysmally clueless. Fittershits panicked repeatedly being on the back end of positional runs while Hurney couldn't evaluate anyone outside of the 1st. I can't figure out why Plummer still has a jersey. There's no reason. Dalton brings nothing to the table. If another QB gets cut that has given a glimmer of anything better than what we have, we should look, and that goes for every position. I cant get over how much different this team could have been with a competent GM and having accepted the Rams offer for Burns. This franchise could have gone in a totally different direction.

Backup QB has been an issue of mine for a long time but not just for Bryce and Dalton. We have never really been able to develop QBs or build an offense around strengths. Dalton isn't going to move the needle one way or another. The problem is in our FO and possibly coaching staff (current staff undetermined as of yet). I'm of the belief that you always try to get better. Dalton wasn't good other than one game against an abysmal defense. Churn the roster, including backup QB. If BY isn't the guy we've got to start over anyway. Who knows. We might actually find someone good. Other teams have done it before.

He can play football as his rookie season shows. Whether it's his desire or just horrible usage, nothing has translated since then. I wouldn't mind a trade for him to see if a change of scenery could improve anything, but I wouldn't offer anything substantial. Late round pick or a oline we're likely going to cut anyway.

This is why you always have to be developing a tackle and a G/C. BC may not grade out as high as TM but he's also not 22M AAV.

Appreciate all the work you put into this. Thanks!

Ain't that the damn truth. Huddle GMs were right so many more times than fittershits.

I still do but only for stuff that requires an email account that I'll never have to check but once for a verification code. The rest of the time it sits and collects junk mail.

Superb physical specimen with untapped pass rushing abilities due to lack of creativity in the defensive scheme. In the right environment he could quadruple production. 3rd round steal that could be something special under the right DC.

This is such a Panthers type move it ranks right up there with a Hurney RB contract.

What's happened to this fanbase goes way beyond Bryce. We've experienced 2 versions of Hurndog, Nippleshorts, Fitterfuks, and now the only guy who'd take the job Morgan. Spygate and Mannings Last Ride screwed us out of 2 SB titles. This fanbase has been let down for decades. I for one am tired of hoping for something better. When the Panthers actually do something worth caring about, maybe the fanbase returns. Until then, we're the Browns of the NFCS.

Bingo. Doesn't matter if it's a Manning, Brady or the reincarnation of Joe Namath in pantyhose. We've got to have a starting caliber NFL QB and if Bryce ain't the guy, we will be in the best position to find one by keeping out 1st round picks. For every Dak, Wilson and Brady there's a Weinke, Grier and Corral.

I get what you're saying and the comment really isn't about Bryce as much as it is about the inconsistencies among referees with regard to penalties. I get the logic behind it, and 90% of the time its probably the right thing to do. But on game day, relying on Hoculee to make the correct call would scare the crap out of me. Maybe Bryce is old enough to get that call.

And given the fact the team has never had back to back winning season in 2 decades before Tepper that's saying something.

I don't think it would be so bad if the Huddle as a whole hadn't been so right so many times about common sense things. I haven't seen anything that has given me any hope that this team can make good decisions starting with Tepper. Its just one comically bad failure after another.

I don't either. If the penalty had been on the offense then the outcome is different. Hard to know what's a penalty half the time in the NFL, much less risk a bad throw on being certain of what a flag is going to be.

Because we're only one player away...

One of the picks that cemented it for me that Scott Fitterer had no business being an NFL GM. Complete panic pick.

1st thing we need to look for in a WR is can he catch the freaking ball. This is a basic fundamental we seem obsessed to ignore. We're not in position to take guys with upside over guys with fundamental football skills. Maybe once we've had a winning season or 3 in a row, we can afford those risks.

They went 11-5 and missed the wild card, but any other year that record is getting you in.

If Brooks ends up not playing another down for us, does he replace the Eric Shelton?

No. Bryce playing with confidence and actually getting it done as an NFL starting QB over an entire season is what we need. Teams are going to have more footage on him too post benching, so hopefully he responds well to the new things being thrown at him. It's just about new contract time after this season. Middle of the road performance is the thing we need least from him.

Im in again

DB and a pick would be an interesting option depending on what the pick was and how the contract was written. DB is a game changer in the center, but having Parsons wreaking havoc with 2 young bucks learning behind him. That's damn tempting.

I wouldnt say weve gotten through it with Bryce. He played better in the 2nd half of the season, but thats hardly conclusive proof he's the guy going forward. We may look better on paper, but we haven't seen a game played yet. The Horn contract was Hurneyesque, potential vs production. We're paper thin at LB and we haven't had a winning season in so long it's hard to remember. Morgan hasn't proven he's the guy yet either. It's going to be hard to build a competitive franchise with the cost of Parsons, for the Panthers at least. You're talking about a Rams/Burns level trade cost, a record new contract, and a lack of ability to build around Parsons, which is what he wants. There's a few journeyman QBs out there, but do we really want to build around a Jones, Darnold or Baker type? We've put a ton of resources into the offense. It'll be hard to do the same with the defense the next couple of years missing those 1sts and 2nd(s). If BY had given us a year of solid performance, I'd say go for it. But with less than half a season of success, i just dont see how we can. If it goes wrong we're going to need a franchise QB, another GM, be on a nearly decade long losing streak, and likely have an unhappy Parsons to go with it. And wed be trusting Tepper to fix it. I'd consider that a wreck.

Hate that it's true about BY, but I agree with you. We don't know what we have with him yet, and while we've seen glimpses, it hasn't been a full season of recognized potential. Trading for Micah and then having BY not fulfill our QB needs would wreck this franchise. I know pass rushers dont grow on trees and you get them when you can, but we're not really in a position to do it. Feels like buying a Tesla when your power just got shut off because you couldn't pay the bill.