SmokinwithWilly

Outside of Charlotte and maybe Atlanta, Cam isn't relevant.

No one is ignoring his play and no one is moving the goal posts for Burns. The goal post is still the same. Burns has never gotten there once. Elite level pay requires elite level play. Burns is Hassan Reddick with a nifty sack celebration. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not pretend he's Bosa, Watt, or Garrett. And just because the Rams were willing to ridiculously overpay isn't a justification to pay him as an elite player. Don't take another GMs mistake and compound it.

If I got paid and didn't have to do my job well or at all, I'd like my bosses too.

Bosa has done it before. He's played to the level of contract he demanded. Burns hasn't in 5 years. That's the difference. And I still think Bosa's contract was ridiculous but the 9ers are in position to win the Super Bowl. The Panthers are about to be 2-15. Two vastly different situations.

The first time I saw one of these I asked my wife if the air bags were on the outside so it would bounce like a beach ball.

Pro Bowl Monteaz Sweat just signed a deal for less than what Burns is asking. Sweat is a more complete edge rusher than Burns. It's not hate to point out that Burns is not worth the money he's asking. Other players have signed lesser contracts and are out playing him. People want to build a winner and giving a Bosa level contract to a guy that hasn't had Reddick level production is an issue. Despite what New Orleans leads people to believe, there is a finite level of cap space to work with every year. We need to spend our resources wisely across the board. If Burns is willing to sign a team friendly contract in the same neighborhood as Sweat, it's still a slight overpay, but whatever. If he wants a Bosa level contract, let someone else pay it. His production hasn't warranted that level of pay increase. Overpay and hope it works out is the Hurney way and we all saw how that worked out for us with several different players.

We turned down 2 1sts and a 2nd to build our defense around a pro bowl alternate in a contract year. Panthers gonna Panther.

Carolina Proctologists Bend over. No lube.

I'm sure Dave would be more than happy to make all his hedge fund business decisions based on your opinion when you call because it is afterall, your money. When you don't know what the hell you're doing, keep your nose out of it.

The problem with all of this from Cam to T2G, Baker, Darnold, CMC, Moore, BY and so on is the wrong people in charge. This team could have TB12, Prime Moss, Irvin and Megatron, Barry Sanders and Gronk and still turn out a horrendous offense under Ron, Rhule and Frank.

If it was a single 1st it'd be OK. But it was all that and Moore.

They forced him on Carolina anyway after Cam wasn't a good face of the NFL as punishment. Why would they want him to leave? Never have to worry about the Panthers ever contending for a playoff spot ever again.

Who knew? Oh yeah. Everyone. When it happened. No hindsight necessary.

Biggest concern with AR for me was always his playing like Cam shortening his career. He's raw, no doubt and that's why I would have been fine at 9, but not at 1.

Just tell them you paid for PSLs to watch a professional football team. The Tepper led Panthers don't qualify.

AR was always my preference but at 9 and only with the right HC, mainly because we were never just a QB away from being a legit contender. AR wouldn't have fit with FR and definitely not with Brown as OC.

Someone carried 4 QBs just to help those that suffered QB injuries at the playoffs. Can't imagine who would do something like that.

Congrats to Team Tanaka on the Huddle FF championship this year. Let's do it again next season.

If the animal is impotent as this team, they'll be extinct in under a decade.

Because all 1st round picks are not equal. While we could say the 1st and 32nd pick are both 1st round picks and should be considered equal in value, we all know that they aren't. A more accurate description is we traded the 9th, 24' 1st overall and DJ Moore (who we'd been offered a 1st for) for the number 1 pick in 23'.

Introducing your new GM.

Sounds like the Panthers have a new PR person lined up.

It was another 1st and 2nd plus a possible 2nd player and 40m more per year. Thats a lot more than what we gave up for Bryce. Id rather have Lamar if we gave up what we did for Bryce. My biggest concern was always how do you make that trade before the tag was applied without creating the same situation he wanted out of in Baltimore. Happy New Year to you too.