SmokinwithWilly

Ceedee Lamb officially out this week as well.

Maybe just make it a standing rule to ro-sham-bo Newton every time he says something stupid. At least we'd get something entertaining out of his interviews for once.

Cam had his moments for me like celebrating a 1st down when we were down big, but overall, dude was a big kid playing the game he loved. He made the game fun for fans and engaging. He was great for fans, and probably for bringing in new young fans, but not enough old fans with $$$ and instead of embracing change they stuck with Sid and his old balls.

Cam was one of those personalities you either loved or hated. And Roger Goodell hated Cam and wasnt going to ever let that smile be the face of the NFL.

If Steichen is getting this out of DJ and can't get anything out of AR you know it's gotta be really bad.

It really is 3 full games as a starter. He got 3 yards rushing in the KC game. That's it.

Literally the best I have left from a draft that started Nabors, Chase Brown, Hill, Kittle, Lamar then Pickens.

Im playing Pickens and Fergeson this week in fantasy. Panthers 97 Cowturds 2

Oh I know. It just sounded funnier in my head.

He can make every throw, just not always to his teammates.

I didnt see it as whining about Bryce as much as asking is this year an anomaly in the 5 years Dan has been a part of the drafting process is it an outlier. There seems to be a lot of questions about whether or not repeating this type of draft is possible, and was it Dan, or bringing in a PFF guy that was ultimately responsible for the draft results.

The one that still blows my mind was if Burns hadn't been available Hurney was going to take Greg Little. He had a 1st round grade on him after that horrendous combine. We got so damn lucky Snyder drafted Haskins

Don't forget trading our future 2nd, the 33rd overall for THE Armanti Edwards.

Im of the opinion that the Teppers were the push for Bryce. Stroud fit Reich better than Bryce did and designing a brand new offense around a QB for a coach that gets to pick "his guy" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You could see it in the body language. He lost interest when he didnt get to draft the QB that would fit what he did. Stroud just played football. Simple. Straightforward. Nothing complicated. No outlier unicorn qualities. Just your traditional NFL QB for the most part.

Well Derrick Brown's dont get 45M AAV contracts and have to have half the teams resources spent to make them JAG comparable. Sorry, but QBs are a category all their own.

Gotta admit, I didnt know Cooper Rush was still in the league.

I see what youre saying but I also wonder about how it all fits it with the rest of the drafts he was a part of with Fitts, the team building strategies which appear similar, the trades or lack of, particularly Burns or other things in general. Thats the problem you run into when you promote staff instead of hiring from outside. You dont really know how involved they were in the god awful decisions of their predecessor. Fitts was probably one of the worst I have ever seen as a manager ever in any field. There are really no words for how bad he was. And Dan was his right hand. So how much of those decisions Dan signed off on or brought to table or disagreed with, who knows. This draft looks good at the moment. But I'm still no fan of how he's gone about spending resources to build this team as a GM.

It has nothing to do with Bryce. Going into the offseason we had options other than an ancient Andy Dalton and piss poor Plummer to look at. Dalton didnt look good other than one game against the worst defense in the NFL. We should have upgraded at backup QB, especially to a backup that fit our HC style of offense. That meant a gunslinger and there were several available to be had that were younger and better suited for DC's offense. Plummer was always a waste of time. Sometimes you find gems or maybe guys that can be serviceable for a game or 2 but you actually have to look for them. We didn't. We did nothing to improve our QB room and that has nothing to do with Bryce. We kept Bryce comfortable, but thats a different topic in and of itself.

Oh I understand that. Star was double teamed a lot as well. Thats why he reminded me a lot of Star. He made a lot of impact eating double teams every play even though the stat sheet didnt necessarily show it with sacks.

Reminds me a lot of Star. Doesnt get a lot of sacks but is a game wrecker in the middle.

3rd actually, but not by much, and I wouldn't consider 94 yards in 4 games an integral part of our passing attack. Our 2nd best pass catcher averaging 25 YPG is a problem all its own.

I was just waiting for his mom to open the door and start vacuuming his room.

Would make sense because quite a few of his arguments come up short.