SmokinwithWilly

I misunderstood what you were saying. However I will say that with the urgent need to evaluate BY in a competitive setting, putting him behind a weak center is doing us a disservice. So what if we waited until next year to draft a center if BY can't be evaluated well due to constant pressure up the middle. Determining if BY is a franchise QB is the only thing that matters right now. He looked like a late round or UDFA last year, not a number 1 pick. A lot of that can be attributed to horrendous oline play as well as his own mistakes. But we have to know. If we end up with a top 3 pick, we have to know whether or not to move on. A shiny new RB doesn't change that. We needed a C through FA or the draft, the draft being ideal because of the quality available at the same spot. Not knowing if BY is a franchise level QB is a far worse finish to the season than going 0-17.

We've seen over and over again rookie centers having immediate impact and being good players while we keep trotting out broken down versions of a center and constantly talk about our poor oline play. RB was a luxury pick. Time after time, Dallas prior and Philly now, are perfect examples of plugging any RB behind a good oline and watch them have career years. We just spent a small fortune on a franchise QB, and when it comes time to actually get a real center to call the line and block, we did what we've watched fail over and over again. The Saints drafted McCoy. As far as putting too much on BY plate, Mr. Irrelevant is getting it done in SF, so the number 1 pick with the best processing brain since Peyton Manning should have no problem.

And that's what's really sad. We spend a small fortune on our offensive line between Moton and G's, Ickey as a top 10 pick, and the guy to lead that unit is coming of 2 leg injuries and is being moved from guard. What good does it do to spend all those resources and leave a gaping hole right in the middle? Sure we can pick a cast off from another team if Corbett doesn't work out. But taking cast offs to anchor the middle of our expensive online doesn't make any sense.

Injured reserve would be in again

Well he did throw close to that, if you include the pick 6's.

We don't need an offensive or defensive coach at this point. We need a new owner.

I know. But I tried to have at least .0001% hope that we could do something more than crap all over the field.

I'm not even sure we average more than 7 points a game after seeing this.

Why do I have the sense of urgency that we need to win our next game or we're already out of playoff contention?

We sucked more than BOGO at the bunny ranch on dollar day.

The chili dogs were awesome when I was a kid. But then again I remember the chilito at taco bell and the Wendy's all you can eat buffet.

At least we won't have a 2nd next year to blow on another poo receiver.

Someone, anyone should fire themselves after this mess.

Were going to be lucky to average 5 points a game.

Thanks LCF and I wish him the best.

All that grease will cleanse your colon.

I don't know how anyone could overlook the history. The only 2 NFL starters BY size to make any "significant" contributions were Eddie LeBaron in the 60's and Doug Flutie. History alone tells you that short QBs rarely make an impact and to trade up for one, giving up what we did, is insanity. If BY had put up the same stats and highlights playing for Kentucky State he wouldn't have been in the day 1 conversation, much less for the top pick. He might have been late day 2 or early day 3 conversation. BY may prove me wrong, and I hope to God he does because that would mean we might have a chance at a winning season or 3, but the history of small QBs making it from college to the NFL and then actually succeeding just doesn't give me much hope.

BY shouldn't just be considered the starter. His cost is a sunk commodity at this point. The goal should always to get better. If BY is the best, so be it. But to just hand him the reins because he was a #1 pick is stupid. If another QB legit beats him out, start that guy.

Richardson was my guy but I always thought he'd require a coach that could reign in his wanting to run and build an offense around him. Frank was never going to be that guy. Stroud was my 2, and Bryce wasn't even in the 1st 3 rounds. There hasn't been a long term successful QB that size in 60 years. There's a reason. I don't care how big his brain is, if he didn't play at Bama and have all the S2 hype, he would have been a day 3 pick.

It's almost like spending all that money on guards might not even make a difference because the fastest route to the QB is right through the center. Maybe promoting the assistant GM from a 2-15 team might have been a bad idea.

From what I remember about that draft, Peppers was the clear best player. The only question was should the Texans take Carr who wasn't a great QB prospect or Peppers who was the better player. Once Carr was the choice, even Scott Fitterer couldn't have screwed up that draft pick.

By week 6 we know. By week 17 we have the number 1 pick if he sucks.

He seems to be a likable enough guy in a team setting and has all the physical tools, he's just always been lacking in his mental game. He's still on an NFL roster which says something. He's been put in terrible situations for a long time, without any real chance with legitimate coaching until last year in SF. He's more of those what if kind of NFL guys for me. Similar to KB and "what if" he hadn't shredded his knee and his mom hadn't passed away at such a pivotal time in his life. Never gonna actively root against the guy, but would like to see him succeed a little after being led by Gase and Rhule. I think he deserves something for putting up with those 2 chuckleheads and OOU.

More millions in fines for drink throwing than wins.

If Teppers tenure hadnt been filled with blunder after blunder and had been even a tiny bit successful, maybe. I'd see it more as weakness from GM who doesn't have any real power and the ultimate decision rests with a man that doesn't know football.