SmokinwithWilly

I think all we have really done through this shutdown is slow the spread so our medical system doesnt get overwhelmed. That's it. This is going to circle the globe several times over. We can't stop it other than a vaccine. This is a reality we need to accept, even though its difficult. I view the world as a giant forest waiting for a lightning strike. Covid 19 is one of those. Higher concentrations of population like NYC are prime ready to burn. Plenty of fuel, lots of heat, and pretty much unstoppable by the time you realize what's happening. Less concentrated areas still burn, but with far less devastating effects. Essential people are the embers that fly into the air. They drift on the wind and eventually light somewhere and set off a new fire. We as a civilization have created the perfect means to wipe ourselves off the planet because we are so close yet so far away. One can be halfway around the world in less than 24 hours and carry who knows what with them without ever knowing. If politicians/leaders had been honest from the beginning about what was really going to happen from the very beginning instead of trying to make everyone feel comfortable, maybe people would have listened more. That truth, everyone is likely to get this, we are just trying to slow it down to give as many of the infected a chance, and slow down the spread until we can possibly create a vaccine to give as many as we can a chance to survive.

But I need my mullet.

Nyah, just keep politics out of this one.There's already a corona thread in TB. This one should be about sharing information and discussing how it affects us rather than all the political BS.

So would it be morally responsible to start making moonshine?

Don't forget your small locally owned restaurants too. Some here are operating at cost just to keep their employees working during all of this and are giving great specials on take out. Some are doing take home you bake meals too. As a small business owner, I'm trying desperately to use what I am spending to prop up the little guys as best I can.

I'm the opposite. Just tell me the truth. Don't BS me. Give me a chance to look for something else during those 12 weeks I'm confined or find a way to make an opportunity for myself. If at the end of 12 weeks, I can be brought back on and I have nothing else, great. If not, you've done right by me by being honest.

I realize that. You just said pay attention to who all is doing it, they don't deserve your business. They may not have a choice if it means the company surviving. I'm sure there are complete asshats who are doing this to poo all over their workers and exploit the situation. I was just trying to say that I think there may be another reason for some, and it's just downright heartbreaking.

I'm not sure that it's all straight up fuging evil. Companies work off contracts and they may simply not be able to guarantee a job when employees come back if too many employees leave for 12 weeks and they can't fulfill their obligations. Is it better to go ahead and let them go or do you let them take unpaid leave and fire them when the 12 weeks are up because all your contracts went somewhere else because you couldn't meet demand. It's a hard thing to consider, I've had to do it myself in the past couple of days. It's a situation I'm definitely losing sleep over and I don't have to worry about the threshold.

I don't live in Charlotte but my wife and I went to Big Lots this morning at 11am, they had TP. . Then we went to a restaurant food supplier and they were stocked to the limit except for rice and dried beans. We were able to load up on bulk meats, veggies, and we also ended up getting some of the commercial sized spices that we use a lot (pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, paprika, etc). We're going to be BBQ'n, portioning and freezing. Spent about $200 but we're good to go now for 4-6 weeks at least. There were about 10 people in there so staying safe distance was easy to do. You could also try local hardware stores. My sister said she went to one and they were full of TP, paper towels, etc

Friend of mine who had to take his wife in to be tested, and subsequently turned away, heard nurses talking about how they had more confirmed cases than they were saying trying not to incite a panic. Lying is going to do no one any good.

I think if we stopped with the panic news for ratings it would save economic armageddon.

That's 6 people I know. How many more are there that have experienced the same thing?

I dont believe the numbers being given. A number of people I know had a 103 fever for 2 or 3 days with dry cough and they were refused by the hospitals and told to go home. They were told they cant be tested unless they have been sick for over 5 days.

Yeah. If the tide doesn't turn quickly I'll be done in about 4 weeks. Half of my contracts are through private party, not commercial, and those are drying up fast. Service industry goes under and this country is going to feel it far worse than imagined. We keep a lot of people working.

What I was afraid of happening is now starting to happen. I have had 25% of my customers call and cancel in the past 3 days because they are afraid of spending money right now with so much of the economy in question. It's not going to take long for a lot of businesses to fold if this keeps up. It's hard to believe that I can lose everything I've worked for for the past 20 years because of something I can't even see.

I'm a small business owner and I'm scared about what this is going to do to me. 2 months of this and I will probably have to shut the doors for good. I won't be able to fulfill my contracts if my employees have to stay home. 2 weeks paid leave. The financial impact will ruin me. I'm worried for my employees. They have families. I have a family. Owning your own business is a hard place to be right now.

https://www.governor.wa.gov/news-media/inslee-statement-statewide-shutdown-restaurants-bars-and-limits-size-gatherings-expanded Gov. Jay Inslee released a statement tonight that further expands protections against COVID-19. “Given the explosion of COVID-19 in our state and globally, I will sign a statewide emergency proclamation tomorrow to temporarily shut down restaurants, bars and entertainment and recreational facilities. WA shutting it down. Petition now for an order to restrict/forgive/wtfever 2 months of rent/mortgage during shutdown also, but I don't see that flying.

I went to Harbor Freight for gloves I needed for work anyway and they were loaded. Got a couple spray bottles and filled it with water and a capful of bleach for my sanitizer. A shop rag and my little spray bottle when I have to go out.

They should put Madden on CNN and let him be the lead TV presence for the nation. We might not learn anything about Coronavirus, but Vegas could make a fortune betting on how many times he could say Brett Favre per hour.

It helps with the deep clean, or so I've heard.

Not just canned goods. Dry items like rice, beans, vegetables, and dried spices are all something that are fairly cheap to buy and easy to store if you are creative. I'm not saying you have to go full prepper mode, but having a 3 months supply can be acquired over the course of a year passing on a take out meal, cigarettes or Starbucks. Water can be a bit more of a task, especially in urban areas.

Some people have enough fat stores they could go for 2 months and still be ok.

Just find someone with lyme disease. Problem solved.

I make 2 cups of hot tea, sweetened with a teaspoon of honey, then pour it over ice. I drink sweet tea once or twice a month in the evening. Other than that, it's water with lemon and lime.