SmokinwithWilly

High quality but that price...

Saints on there. Loomis is a magician but damn.

Contract terms and bringing in a guy are 2 different things. Rhule likely has little if anything to do with the terms of a contract, not his job. He could have expected him at 3 yr/45mil with 20 guaranteed instead of 3yr/63m with 33 guaranteed structured the way it was. That's where Hurneys job of determining if a player is worth the contract comes into play. This is one of his weakest areas as GM, as history has shown us. He drastically overpays for mediocre talent. He could come back to Rhule and say for what TB wants, he wont bring that amount of value. Instead I can bring in X number of players instead. That doesn't feel like a Hurney decision with his future on the line. He needed a homerun to save his job. TB was the pitch. And Hurney struck out.

What also plays I to this is the strength of next years QB class, which, if you listen to the "experts", is not strong. So if a team has the potential need for a reset at the QB position, this is the year to do it. There are 12-15 teams that have that potential. TL to the Jags. Done. Jets may or may not take Fields/Wilson. Miami - not sold on Tua but likely not taking a QB. 1st potential trade partner for a QB needy team. Atl - makes perfect sense to draft a QB. Sit under Ryan(36) and develop, jettison that co tract after next year and rebuild it all. Cincy - No QB unless Burrow suffers a major setback. Trade partner #2. Philly - doubtful, but with lots of holes could easily move to try to grab more picks Det - Stafford will be expensive and they need a lot to compete. Could very easily accept the inevitable and just start over. Car - we need one too. That's 5/6 teams in front of us that could go QB. Not likely but could. And behind us sits WFT, Dallas, NE, Denver, SF, NO, TB, Chicago, Colts, Vikings and Giants, all of whom could have reason to try and draft a franchise QB. Theres a lot of need and were talking about 4 top guys. Wilson may fall, he may not. But to pretend like there arent a lot of teams looking at this QB crop and salivating is wishful thinking.

That's not even remotely what he said. You are seeing what you want to see. All he is saying is Hurney was the loudest voice in the room for TB, not that he was the only voice. I will say it does look like a typical Hurney homerun swing. GM on the last year of his contract, likely not to get an extension or another job offer unless he pulls off something miraculous. Enter TB. A previous starting NFL QB that had the potential for a big performance. If this team exceeds expectations and finishes 8-8 or 9-7, Marty might get another 3-4 years and he looks like a genius. If it fails he's out of a job and likely unemployed. Same outcome. Only one had a chance to save his job.

It's going to be very strange watching the train wreck from the outside this time.

But acting like another team will want TB as a starter based on his performance this year as part of a trade deal is definitely a stretch. He doesn't bring anything to a trade you cant get for 15m a year cheaper from pretty much anyone else.

No one wants to pay for TB. Jameis Winston might be a head case, but at least he can throw 10 yards. No one is paying 20m for 15 TDs.

Bridgewater doesn't help any trade. He's our Brock Osweiler.

Why couldnt Hurney have just traded for Watson last offseason before we signed TB and Billy O'B was fired? We could have gotten Watson for a 3rd and a handful of magic beans.

Brady. I think he elevates the entire team moreso than Rodgers. 28-3. Brady plays like he doesn't believe any game is ever lost. His drive to succeed is unparalleled.

Jenkins was HoF talent. Just at Golden Corral with KB.

Oh I dont disagree. I just think some people may just be short sighted and think he's a product of Mahomes, Hill and Kelce rather than how good he really is. If something happens to Rhule and EB is available I hope he's our first call.

I’ve had a couple of thoughts on this. Andy Reid is considered to be a QB whisperer and I think he gets credit sometimes when it may not be deserved. Likewise, Mahomes is a freak of nature talented QB and I think he gets some of the credit when it should fall to EB. Add to that the talent of Hill and Kelce and I think he might be getting considered the product of the players. That said without a doubt I think he should be getting calls to be an NFL HC. EB was on my short list last year. With regard to Brady I think he’s riding the LSU hype. I knew it wasn’t going to be long because he was a hot commodity last year when Rhule added him. He’s young, energetic, and could be the next Sean Mcvay.

Out here it is a bidding war. Housing market is up between 150% to 400% from 2 years ago. Houses are being put up for preview for a week and sold within hours of listing often for 30-40k over asking. Prices for basic starter house no amenities other than 4 walls and some cheap ass carpet are $250 a sq. ft. to start.

In some ways we are better prepared to respond, and in some ways we aren't. The world has become a place where a few seconds of notoriety is worth whatever lies you want to spew. There's no recourse for what someone says on Facebook or through their own podcast. Misinformation is rampant and has caused issues worldwide. The truth tellers of this virus have been there since the beginning but has been drowned out by the noise. Isolate the elderly and those with weakened immune systems. The rest of us can take reasonable precautions such as masks, distancing, etc. and the world keeps on turning. Something else to consider to is the population itself. We are less able to provide for ourselves today than 100 years ago. Cities have always been unable to provide for the masses, but the more rural and less populated areas didn't interact nearly as much as we do now. Mass transportation was in its infancy, families grew a lot of food for themselves, and population density was a lot lower. While we may have the ability to care for each other better with a more effective health care system, the ability to isolate ourselves and prevent the need for that health care is far lower than it was 100 years ago.

The really sad part is if the DNC had nominated a paper bag instead of HRC, that paper bag could have been turned into a cover for a science book and we likely be in better shape with Covid.

You do realize you and I are on the same side and have been. You asked a question and I gave you an answer you don't like. You are however ignoring the fact that millions are listening to politicians on both sides who are using this as a power play instead of trying to keep people safe with the truth. That is the reality we are in. Maybe how its being treated there is different than here. Here its been used to control people through ignorance. Make them to scared to think for themselves. But then again the truth isn't nearly as terrifying as what we've been told. But not as terrifying doesn't sell. And people have seen through the bullshit and now trust nothing that they are being told by those claiming to have the information. Those whose position would give them the information. I am well aware there are places to find accurate information, and most of it seems to be from outside the US. I just don't think we should have to search for the truth, especially when it has been ridiculously obvious. It is the duty of politicians and reporters to share the truth. It is the responsibility of medical professionals not to speak on news outlets that value clicks more than truth. If you speak from a platform whose foundations are built on lying, you lose credibility and no one will listen even when you speak the truth.

So CNN, FOX MSNBC and the thousands of other news networks have no responsibility for what the "news" they report as fact? That's like saying that you bear no responsibility for someone getting trampled after you scream fire in a crowded theater. You can say anything you want as long as free speech, right. Truth be damned. And that's exactly how you get to where this country is right now.

The rest of the world didn't make it so damn political. This country has never been more divided politically. Media outlets don't even care about truth, just money. This citizens of this country have been lied to by so many for so long there is zero trust or faith in anything anymore. Even in a time when logic should tell us to come together, we just can't. What you're seeing is the result of decades of lying without consequences or liability.

Don't worry. They'll surrender.

Then Trump must have been wearing a mask 24/7 for years. It's the only logical explanation for that level of stupidity.

Maybe you don't recall the commercials telling people to stop hoarding toilet paper. Or setting up special times to allow the elderly to shop because they couldn't get what they need unless they got there first. Or how about empty shelves in every store. No bleach, no sanitizer. No basic necessities. Signs in every store limiting what could be bought. Massive layoffs because companies had to close the doors. Because that stuff didn't happen right. 300 million people just imagined all of it. If we shut down the economy even more than before, none of that would ever happen again. I never said Covid couldn't be slowed, but it has not been outright wiped out. Some countries like New Zealand are able to isolate themselves. America will not. Once they open themselves back up, all it's going to take is one infected person to introduce it back into the country unless there is a vaccine. Covid is not the severity of pandemic I'm talking about. It's a baby compared to what could potentially spread worldwide. Our population outright panicked for a virus that is asymptomatic in 80% of people. Replace Covid with something 10x as deadly and more contagious and yes, the world is absolutely ripe for a pandemic. Our world is not ready for a supply chain collapse due to a far more deadly pandemic.

I don't give 2 flying fugs about the NFL this season or any other. It's a form of entertainment and in no way mandatory for me to live. This country has already witnessed the hysteria caused by a partial shutdown. Shut it all down and watch what happens. Burying your head in the sand and believing in the good of humanity will provide you nothing to eat or drink when trucks aren't moving and warehouses are empty. I watched people camping out on shelves for toilet paper. There wasn't sharing and hugs and rah rah rah across the vast majority of this nation. Wait until people can't get food or water. Imagine the superdome after Katrina in NYC. That's what shutting it all down really means. Anarchy.

And not even remotely possible. How do you think all that food and medical supplies arrived? It takes hundreds of thousands of people interacting across the nation. You think you saw panic and shortages the first time? Do it again. Except there won't be people at manufacturing jobs making essentials, or producing food, or distributing it because they are all stuck at home. Unless of course they need to work be at work because they are expendable to provide you with what you need so you can be safe and secure. And then we aren't all in this together. Only the ones who aren't expendable are. How long do you think Charlotte will survive if the people that run the pumps that supply the city's water stay home for their own safety and their family's safety. What happens when automation fails and it will. What then? The world is ripe for a pandemic of this nature. We have highly concentrated populations in closed areas with no means of self sufficiency other than to interact with other people. People are going to die from this. A lot have and a lot more will before it burns itself out. Lock everything down and freeze the economy and watch it collapse. Then you will see death and destruction on a far greater scale than what covid has done/is doing. People will feast on each other in the name of self preservation. People need to accept reality. People are dying and will continue to do so until we either herd immunity or develop a vaccine. In the meantime, stop making covid some political tool for power and money. This is about damage mitigation. Mother nature is a far more ruthless killer than we give her credit.