SmokinwithWilly

He must not have got the notice Hurney is with WFT now.

If he goes for a 4th, I wouldn't give up our 3rd because I don't think he's worth a high 3rd, I'd expect some type of 2-3 year extension for reasonable money as part of the trade. Pay him like a backup, not T2G backup money, and then put some incentives in the contract to pay him if he wins the starting job and actually produces.

I don't know if he has "it" or not. I wonder how much of the idiocy of Gase and his decision making affected Darnold. Having no clear plan or leadership at the HC position would dramatically affect anyone I would think. Some stability would probably do wonders for the guy, and having a coach that acted like he had some sort of plan rather than playing madden the night before. Still, I wouldn't pay a lot for him.

It depends on what they knew and what they allowed. If it was against policy for drinking in the facility for coaches and staff, and they didn’t enforce it there could be an issue. When I was a bartender part of my job was tracking drinks to tables. I more than once had to cut off customers and call taxis. Had undercover ATF buyers a few times, they told us after watching service and trying to have underage buyers. They made our liability perfectly clear about serving too many and what could happen if someone was served then drove drunk.

I have no issue bringing Darnold in for a 4th or lower. At worst he would be a serviceable backup or be cut. At best, with the right coaching he could be a solid starting QB. Not everyone has the benefit of having Andy Reid as their head coach. He has made some boneheaded moves that need to be addressed. But how high should expectations have been with Gase and the poo show he ran. I think he’s worth the gamble.

Supply and demand. 5 QBs considered to be 1st round this year because there are a dozen teams needing one. In a typical year there's probably only 2 or 3 going in round 1.

T2G for Darnold. Yep. I’d do that. Gase was terrible and I’m not sure Darnold is as bad as he has played. The picks were my guess what they will ask for 2 in a high demand market this year. I don’t think they’ll want CMC. The team has a lot of needs and loading up on draft picks is a much better use than adding a RB, even one as good as CMC. And if paying a RB 16m a year isn’t sound strategy, why expect someone else to do it and bail us out.

I'd trade T2G for Darnold but I think 2 is going to be too rich for us to move. I expect they'll want at least 3 1sts or maybe 2 1st 2 2nds and a 3rd or 2.

Prices out here are going up 1% a day. Single wide mobiles are asking 200k and getting it. It’s insane.

A coach like Ron just stares at the marble waiting for it to shape itself.

I know it sounds crazy but if we could find a way to trade back a couple times and pick up a few extra 2nds I'd be really happy. There's a lot of talent to be had right there. If we aren't 100% on a QB at 8 or don't trade up, the idea of being able to grab Davis, Grant and Mayfield excited me a lot. I think this year round 2 and 3 is where some really good players are going to be able to be had because of not holding the underwear Olympics. I want as many picks in those 2 rounds as we can get.

I want Davis, Mayfield or Humphrey but I’m not sure he makes it into the 2nd.

The answer is obvious. Clone Brady.

This is what happens when you use 3 cans of hairspray in a small enclosed space.

In a very large soft bed.

I’m still pissed off at Hurney for not making this happen when Billy B was there. We could have had him for our first and a $25 gift certificate to Applebee’s.

I preface this by saying I am assuming at 8 we don’t take Lance even though he was available. So I mocked a trade back with San Francisco at 12. SF gave up 1st (12) 2022 1st 2nd (43) and 2022 2nd. We gave up 1st (8) and 2022 2nd I know it sounds like a strange combo and a little pricey, but QBs are premium and there’s a few suitors for the last of the top 4. I will say Lawrence and Wilson went 1,2 and Fields went 4 to Atlanta. They’re grabbing their Ryan replacement while they can. I mocked out the rest of the draft fairly taking into account other teams needs and values and here’s what I ended up with. 12- Kyle Pitts - mismatch nightmare. Slater was on the board still and I was really close going between the two, but with some questions about his length, Pitts was too good to pass up. 39 - Jalen Mayfield - I assume we tag Moton and try to move him to LT. If not, a tag and trade with Baltimore for Orlando Brown Jr. and we have our RT of the future. 43 - Wyatt Davis - big, nasty OG immediately upgrades our interior. I wanted Creed Humphrey but he went one pick earlier to the Giants. 44 - TRADE for Richie Grant. We move back into the 2nd. Having already given up our 2nd in the trade with SF, I gave up our 3rd, 6th and SF 2022 2nd to Dallas I didn’t take it further than the first 2 rounds because it’s just too crazy to predict. In the end, we end up giving up our 3rd, 6th and next years 2nd but add 2nds this year and SF’s 1st. I think the quality of the picks is worth it and also gives us an extra 1st to work with next year if we need to move up for a QB. Thoughts?

If by slightest you mean dripping like grease from a Bojangle's bag full of botato rounds then yes... ever so slight.

If I change my name to Wofford can I see any of that scratch?

Also, the Chargers giving up 3 picks to move up 4 spots from 77 to 73 isn't happening either, even though the author says it's 11 spots. I think someone got into the brownies again...

I still wonder how much that video sipping wine and smoking a cigar played into all of this. If I’m looking at this strictly from a management position, seeing my leader, my foreman, lead supervisor, whatever, come out and say he made a conscious decision to deceive leadership and hide vital information crucial to the success of the team from those that needed to know and then make a video for the public to explain it all, I don’t know how you don’t move on from that, especially given his injury situation. As much as I valued an employee, I’d have to let them go for seriously undermining the company. I know this is the NFL and franchise QBs don’t grow on trees, but you have to believe that didn’t sit well. I think that’s why it took so long. It wasn’t an easy decision to make and the consequences serious, but in the end, I believe it played at least somewhat of a role.

New coach though. He has no attachment to Hurts really. He’s going to want to roll with his guy.

Agree that they both won’t be gone but Slater doesn’t quite have the length. He makes it up in footwork, no doubt, and I’m a footwork guy. I just don’t know if he warrants taking at 5 with that. Now if we traded up to 5 and he was there at 8, I could totally understand it. You’ve grabbed a couple extra picks which makes kicking him inside if you have to a little more palatable. If the Jets take Sewell, I see Cincy moving. If not, I think they stay put.

Everything really hinges on the Jets and do they take Wilson. If they go with Sewell, Cincinnati is more likely to trade back since their elite LT is off the board. Sewell and Bechton on the edges with Darnold and no Gase might be interesting. It Darnold does suck, they would be in good position to go after Howell next year.

Good stash indeed. That’s the premium stuff you save for special occasions.