SmokinwithWilly

5th and swapping 6ths. Good receiver got dirt cheap.

So if we do land Watson, what's his restructure going to look like? 10 year 550m? Don't want to trade all those assets and not have him on a long term deal. Currently his contract is up in 4 so we would have our first chance to aquire elite level college talent in the last year of his contract.

If it were TB12, I could see it to an extent. Dude has 7 rings. Watson has a couple of 10 win seasons and coming off a 4-12 season. Slight difference.

Beat me to it.

This could be the system working 1000% that we just can't see, yet.

It's OK to put your foot down. But so far Tepper has been stomping on turds.

Another Watson thread. Yay!

It's the Rhule version of the wildcat. 3 QBs. Who's getting the ball.

Similar to what RW wanted in Seattle. Now he's a Bronco.

The way that headline reads, the Steelers don't want him because he wasn't found guilty.

We really needed to see what we had in BC this year in anticipation of a tackle rich draft. I hope BC can develop into a stud LT because if we trade for DW, he's going to have to be. I think Campen can do a number with this line, as long as we have players with enough talent to be developed.

It's going to be really sad if after all of this, and all we likely give up for Watson, he decides to play out his contract and go elsewhere. Of course we can franchise tag him, but would you really want to have to force your franchise QB to stay where he doesn't want to be? He didn't want to be in Houston playing for a bad team and bad coach. Is Carolina really going to be any better.

If he requests a trade to Vegas this no longer becomes an issue. Plenty of legal rub n tugs in Nevada.

Which shows that the Rams offer wasn't as good as Carolina's or Detroit would have already taken it. They had to add more to make it work. And Stafford wanted a shot at a ring, and that wasn't here.

Of course they don't but you also have to be realistic. Stafford wasn't taking this team to a SB. 2 1sts from Carolina was worth more than 2 from the Rams because the Rams are the far better team, but we didn't offer 2 1sts. We are also coached by Matt Rhule, a 2nd year coach from college with no major wins and a coaching staff made up of guys with almost zero NFL experience. Carolina is/was a much better risk to end up in the top 10 vs the Rams. If Carolina had made the same offer as the Rams, Detroit would have taken it because the likelihood of the picks being better was much higher.

The Rams weren't offering top 10 picks, and what could be a top 5 pick next year. They fully expected to get to the SB which would mean pick 32 and then another late 20s/30s pick. Value isn't close to the same.

If there's any type of league suspension he still would be.

Hard to really say what he is since he's never had a QB1. Cam hasn't been fully healthy in a long time.

If what that tweet says is true and there were witnesses waiting that weren't called, that's very disturbing. There's still 22 civil suits to be concluded. I always felt the criminal charges would be the hardest to prove if at all, simply because it's he said she said. I'm not going to crucify any of them because i don't know if they were telling the truth or not. If it comes out they were lying, then they absolutely deserve to be crucified. Pretend victims lying about assault make it much harder for real victims to get justice. My problem with Watson has been his pattern of behavior and decision making. Flying in "massage therapists" when there's any number of them available locally is very odd and makes you wonder why. At the same time though, you have to ask why would any woman fly that far just to give a "massage" and think it was going to be completely innocent. If I'm a multi millionaire star NFL qb, I have a camera in that room recording every session for just this reason. He hasn't been very smart with regards to any of this. My biggest issue overall has always been with the reports Tepper wanted Watson at any cost regardless of what he may have done without any of the process having played itself out. The message i was getting was football mattered more than 2 dozen potential victims. Having 3 women close to me victims of sexual assault, its not an accusation i take lightly and it's not one I just dismiss because it can be extremely hard to prove. Let the process play out. If he's cleared, trade for him if that's what you want to do. I don’t know if he's guilty or not but his pattern of behavior is cause for concern. He wanted out of a new contract because he wasn't happy with conditions that are nearly identical to ours. The cost Houston is asking is also extremely high for a disgruntled QB that wants out. 5 1st round picks (3 picks, 2 players) and 2nds is an obscene price tag for any player, much less one who could still be subject to NFL discipline. We could give up all those assets and end up with Darnold as our starter. Goodell will protect the shield, and if Watson and the NFL are getting tons of social media pressure, you can bet he's going on the exempt list. I don't care what his sexual proclivities are as long as it's between 2 consenting adults.

They got their franchise QB and then used their first round pick to take Chase, who was an integral part of leading that team to the SB. If they had spent 3 1sts to acquire Burrow, there would have been no Chase and no SB trip.

Michael Jackson actually was indicted on charges and stood trial though he was acquitted on all counts and he paid a 23m settlement in a separate civil trial to an accuser. The catholic church, which has no skin tone, has had many, many white priests commit deplorable acts for which they paid millions across multiple settlements. They're famous for it. Boy Scouts too. Massive class action suit. OJ is probably the most famous example of someone tried and acquitted criminally but still found liable during a civil trial. Who doesn't remember him in the back of a white Bronco with a line of cop cars following him on prime time TV. Race has nothing to do with what they were accused of doing. These 3 very famous examples just happen to have months of constant TV news coverage. If you want to instead use Sandusky, Weinstein, or any number of white sexual predators or criminally innocent/civilly guilty feel free, the point is still the same. The pattern of behavior is suspect and I wouldn't let my kids be alone with any of them, and you can be not guilty criminally, or not indicted in Watson's case, as still possibly found liable in a civil trial.

Tepper is going to be front row center giving those lovin' eyes.

He forced his way out of Houston after signing that extension. Just because he's under contract doesn't mean he will want to stay if things go badly.

Wonder if Ron is kicking himself for trading for Wentz