SmokinwithWilly

Nfc championship game. Screw the hype and the promises, I want results. If we draft a qb at 6 I want him gone. His QB track record is horrible and I don't want another flop with college connections to him.

We finished 5-12 and were an embarrassment at the QB position. Are we really in any position to be doing favors for players who likely wouldn't be on anyone else's practice squad? He's on the hot seat and he knows it and instead of at least seeing what was going to be available and do a proper evaluation, he does this. It's a severe lack of awareness, IMO.

The day after the NFL season ends, we sign PJ Walker to a new deal. Vet minimum or whatever he got, whatever guarantees, there was no need for it. With our QB room in shambles, and a plethora of options available this offseason, there was no need to do this. This was a loyalty layup. Now you can say this wasn't a big mistake but I think it shows a problem. Rhule is loyal to his guys regardless of whether or not they do anything worth being loyal for. We saw it when he benched Cam for Sam and then went into that merry-go-round QB situation. You can't trust him to do what's best for the team. His talent evaluation at the QB position at the NFL level is suspect and he was throwing love me eyes at Pickett. Pickett would be QB 4 in 3 years all chosen by Rhule. Signing Walker may seem minor, but it is an indication of a much bigger problem. Right now, Rhule is relying on his familiarity with players than his ability to properly evaluate them.

If it had gotten rid of Rhule, I would have called it a win.

Been saying this for a while. Put him where he can do the most damage

As long as it's an elite level playmaker and not a QB I'm ok with it.

Get Minshew on the relatively cheap. Use him to judge how good a coach Rhule is. Rhule has gotten to select his guy 2 years in a row at ridiculous costs given production. Now its time for the front office to select for him and see what he can do. If we flounder again, adios. If he performs well and the team does well, then maybe Rhule sees year 4. There really isn't much difference between Minshew and any of the QBs this year other than draft pick cost.

Desire doesn't equal ability.

We do. But I'm not sold on any of this years prospects at 6. That's an elite level player pick and I just don't see any qb as elite this year.

I think the concern was the NFL could hold of on his suspension until after his civil trial which could take a couple of years. It's possible he could be suspended multiple games or indefinitely depending on the outcome and 150m for 3 years against the cap with no way to recover it.

It's possible one could be there at 6.

I want BC as a swing tackle and draft a LT. Get rid of Irving since he was never any good anyway or keep him for some other useless purpose like waterboy. Keep Elfien as a backup center/guard if we have too but I'd be perfectly fine with a late round center and letting him walk as well.

Why does everyone keep saying make BC a guard. He looked horrible there last year and it's not his natural position. Keep him as a swing tackle, draft a LT, move Brown to LG or get a decent vet.

Our QB, whoever it is, won't know what to think when there isn't someone in the backfield in under half a second.

To be fair, there wasn't much success before this occurred.

Maybe he saw your post about playing in Arthur's anal dome.

It's all good. I hate doing double posts. Mods delete please.

I did. I looked and it didn't show up for some reason. Been having some issues. MY BAD.

https://www.nfl.com/news/panthers-sign-wr-d-j-moore-to-three-year-extension-worth-61-9m-in-new-money. Looks like DJ gonna be here a while.

My thoughts exactly.

Right. It's just who is going to evaluate Minshew. Rhule? Please no. It's possible Minshew could be the next Jake. I just don't want to make a move for him if we think he's a 6 or 7 win QB. We're not going to accomplish anything other than a few feel good wins and a draft pick in the teens.

Rhule knows he has to win or he's out. He's been publicly told as much. He lost his best shot at that with DW. He's desperate. Because he's desperate, we're desperate.

This franchise reeks of desperation right now.

Unless he's taking us to the playoffs, there's no point. Winning 7-8 games hurts the franchise long term. Next years QB class is much better than this one. Endure the season, send Rhule packing. New HC gets to select his QB with a top pick, or a trade up costs less if we have to, and begin again.