SmokinwithWilly

Philly of the last decade and Dallas of the decade prior are proof of this. Resources heavily dedicated to the oline and RBs who look brilliant only to disappear into obscurity when they get a second deal elsewhere. It's much more productive to have 1st contact 2 yards past the LoS than a yard behind it.

I don't have much of an opinion on whether he will be good or not. I just think it's a matter of will or won't his knee hold up after 2 tears. Simple as that.

What it should have said.

If you don't have a definitive answer at the QB spot, keep turning over rocks. These guys know that there are no guarantees and you have to constantly earn your position, or at least you should unless you're a HoF caliber. There's always someone trying to take your spot. Even if you have your guy, you keep looking to develop the next one in case a season/career ending injury occurs or the contract impedes your ability to build a complete roster. Qb, blindside tackle, and to a degree center are the 3 offensive positions that need to always be working on a plan B strategy.

When people watched Cam play they knew he had "it." From his first game, there wasn't any doubt the man could play and he did it over and over again. Bryce hasn't done that. No consistency in production is a huge red flag 3 seasons in. Maybe he gets it, maybe not. If he's not consistent, he can't be the guy.

He had 9 rushes for 22 yards and 3 receptions for 23 yards in 3 games in 24. He barely touched the ball in any meaningful way. He didn't have any attempts last year.

Dont think he signs at 35M. That's what other QBs are getting when they move to another team. When the original team is signing the QB, contracts are in the mid 50s. If we do an extension, mid 50s is the number we should realistically expect.

I don't see us offering or him accepting a 30m per season offer. If we did make an offer, I expect it would be a top 5 contract which would be extraordinarily stupid even if he did have a 4k/30/10 season. He hasn't been consistent and we don't need to make a Daniel Jones type mistake. I don't think we should entertain making an offer until his 5th year to see how things play out for more than a season.

I don't remember one critic throwing out the race card. It's all about performance or lack thereof.

Let's be clear. Bryce didn't make the playoffs. He had opportunities to make the playoffs and blew it. Atlanta made the playoffs for us. If it wasn't for the Falcons, Bryce would have been sitting at home talking about missed opportunities.

JMO, but I think the difference is one thing to be a player and be drafted to a team vs being hired as a coach, told you're going to be put in charge of getting your guy, and having the owner draft his guy instead. Stroud fit Frank's offensive style better than Bryce could, plus, it was pretty obvious Bryce wasn't ready when he was named starter. Frank was being told how to run his team by a guy that didn't know the first thing about football. It's a dynamic that was never going to work. It creates a miserable work environment and it was clearly evident. That's why I think Frank lost interest. Now this is all my opinion and I have no proof of it other than watching his body language before and after the draft.

Let's be real though. If it was any one of us we'd want to wait and see if it'd heal on its own before getting our neck cut open. To much poo to go wrong on a neck surgery. Can't really fault him for waiting.

Probably both to be fair. End of season looks pretty rough on the schedule and our offense has a lot of questions yet to be answered with a new OC, our inconsistent QB and WRs, lack of TE passing game and a very shallow line. Defense looks better on paper, the question is can Evero do something with them to make this defense able to shut down high powered offenses.

The majority of people who complained about Cam weren't from Carolina. He was a polarizing figure in the NFL. I liked Cam but he had bad timing for his antics and I think it rubbed a lot of people, especially in the league FO, the wrong way. I believe it affected the team, especially in regards to the outcome of SB50. The league didn't want Cam as the face of the NFL.

I don’t feel secure, but if there was a position that can have starter quality found in udfa, it's RB.

You get the guy you think can be your guy and continue to develop a 1B. Until you're sure, keep swinging at guys with potential.

I'm actually not against Bryce. Under Tepper our QB play has been erratic and what can you do for me now. I am not a fan at all of that approach to the QB position. I get we're trying to give Bryce every opportunity to be a success. I don't like not pursuing a 2nd option in the meantime until Bryce does/doesn't prove he's a franchise QB. Until you have your franchise QB you have nothing. Keep looking within reasonable means. It can only help the team.

Play him on his 5th year. See if he starts/repeats the success. If he does, great, no problem with an extension. Just no Daniel Jones 1 hit wonder contract please.

Tepper said he used to walk through the office and make his opinion "known". That's just another way of saying do what I say or else.

While we're working with Bryce as our QB and leader of our offense, we're still constantly looking to improve our QB room because as we've seen too many times throughout the history of the league , 1 injury can change the trajectory of your season or your team. We feel it would be irresponsible not to continue to bring in other QBs who feel can compete, or even potentially challenge for a starting role should a long term injury occur and we need to evaluate other options.

I've always thought it had something to do with Tepper meddling. The before and after draft of Frank shows a man with 2 different attitudes. I think he just couldn't trust his boss and gave up interest. It's hard to be a leader when you know you can't trust the guy paying your salary to not go behind your back and cut your legs out from under you.

There was a huge problem between Cam and Smitty. Smitty has been pretty open about this and how he didn'twant tonplay with Cam when he was drafted. Cam couldn't be the leader of the team with Smitty here.

What really happened with Frank, Tepper.and the whole QB situation that led to Frank's dismissal.

He doesnt put up elite numbers? He puts up bottom of the league numbers. There is zero consistency in his game. You can't have a qb that shows up once every 4 games.Those guys are starters until their replacement is found. Honestly, he's worth about 4m per season because that's what backups are getting.

So he became GM and decided not to address the weakness in the QB room following one of the worst rookie QB performances in NFL history? There were options last season other than signing Dalton to a 2 year deal. Brissett and Jones by a wide margin, both of whom outplayed Bryce, Wilson, Winston, hell even Rivers off the couch was more exciting at the QB position. The time to address the failure in the QB room was last year but instead people on the Huddle cheered when we brought Dalton back then cheered when we were able to get anything for him after they finally realized he was washed up like a few of had been saying all along and got poo'd for even mentioning. This year, the options were more limited obviously, especially since we lost Icky. It changed the dynamic of our draft. I think we were stuck this year keeping Bryce, but i still think giving him a 5th year option for what has amounted to replacement worthy performance was the wrong move. Why guarantee 25m if you're planning to replace him? You think he's going to want to be a bridge QB? Hell no. He's going to want out and we'll end up cutting him if he has another lackluster season because no one is trading for him with that price tag. Were there better options as far as production available. A couple. Were there guys available with more physical tools than Bryce, Pickett or Grier, you damn well better believe there were. I've been saying all along, you always keep looking for your 1b. Bryce has yet to prove he can be a starter. Keep looking for someone who may. Put competition in camp. Let the best QB lead the team. Stop settling for less than mediocre.