SmokinwithWilly

Expect to see Icky extended to cover this deal and give him time to recover. Makes sense now, given that this is a 1 year deal.

I don't think it's about Bryce's ego. I think it's about Tepper's. Bryce was Tepper's draft pick. Everything that's been done has been to protect the image. New HC with a shiny contract fired after he loses interest immediately after he supposedly drafted his guy. He can't make an offense for him because he's the QB that fits his style of offense. Bryce's rookie season is one of the worst in history. It was obvious he wasn't ready. He was named starter without any real camp competition. No real preseason reps. Coach keeps playing him despite terrible play. A new coach and GM are hired on the condition that Bryce is the guy. No searching for a new QB. It's Bryce or else. Bryce is benched year 2 for multiple games, replaced by Dalton who stunk it up proving he's washed up, then Bryce comes back in after Dalton injures his thumb and finishes the season. Dalton's contract is up, plenty of younger, higher upside FAs available. Dalton is brought back 2 years guaranteed as a "mentor". Jack Plummer, so bad in 24', brought back to camp in 25' and lo and behold, he's still terrible and has no business being on a field. Other QBs brought in, the most recognizable being Hooker. All those brought in so bad even the PS can't hold them. And now, after 3 years of bottom tier QB performance, with Dan saying we need to improve our QB room, we bring in a QB that's not passed for over 2500 yards in either of his 2 seasons as a starter, before he's benched and sent to the life of being a backup. The common denominator in all of this is there's never been any real competition here, even when it was justified. After last year, it's debatable if he's starting QB material. Good moments and horrific moments. From one minute to the next, you don't know what you're gonna get. So if you ask yourself why some of us feel bringing in KP is a joke, it's because it looks how it's always looked. That everything being done is to prove that David Tepper was right when he made the choice to draft Bryce and everything done since has been to protect that decision. Bringing in another QB with even the potential to challenge Bryce was always out of the question.

Instead of a butt fumble we'll have a back pass.

And he had a week old roach coach sushi draft in 24'. Either one could be the norm and the other the anomaly. Let's not crown him as a draft god quite yet.

If we could somehow get Salyer and Decker I'd take both and trade Stone Forsyth for a barrel of trash can punch.

Our LT plan next season

Typically I agree with that logic but our FO has not shown logical progression where Bryce is concerned.

Bryce trusted AT. It was part of the reason AT had to go. Bryce had to look beyond AT as a 1st read. If Metchie falls into that security blanket role AT used to fill, it's a step back for Bryce. That's not something we need in such a pivotal year, if that were to happen.

It does but I'll hold my who's the asshole until it plays out. Somebody is gonna come out covered in poo. Just glad it wasn't us.

What i was referring to was so many people making it sound like the Ravens were sinners and Crosby and agent were saints. It could easily be the other way around. No one knows until we see Crosby live in a game, whenever that is and where his health is long term. Until then, it's all speculation on who did who wrong.

Having our starting LT coming from the Raiders 25' oline is more than code red for me. That's some close the blast doors on Crystal Mountain and pray Joshua can figure out tic-tac-toe.

The question was really meant to make one consider the motivations of the FO. Would you bring in another QB at 4m per season who had a statistically better season than Bryce as a "backup" or would they allow an open competition? I question the reasons behind signing Pickett. Is it about improving the team or protecting Bryce from competition.

The Saints have been in cap he'll for years and it was finally catching up. Their way out appears to have come by finding a QB on a sweetheart 2nd round deal.

The truth will come out when Crosby actually returns to the lineup. He and his agent could be blowing smoke about his progress to get a fat new deal witha team that has SB chances. NFL GMs aren't the only slimy ones out there. If Crosby returns on schedule and at full speed, the Ravens lose face. If he doesn't, Ravens look smart and Crosby and his agent do. We went through similar drafting Brooks. He was going to be ready by camp, then he wasn't. Then the start of the season. Then week 3, and so on. Time will tell if the Ravens or Crosby were in the right. Either way, the Raiders have got to be pissed.

I didn't sip mine either. I have no memory of it. I just know the pictures all my friends took. Evidently it was something I would have wished I could remembered. Afterwards they said I passed out and the only knew I was alive because they heard my head lift up and hit the floor. Probably should have called an ambulance for alcohol poisoning. Evidently it was good times. I just remember none of it.

I just remember the Popcorn Sutton name from my first jar because it was such an out of the normal name. A friend of mine bought me the most recent jar on a trip to Nashville. I'm not picky either, it just has to be really good. I've got a local shiner I buy from now when he's brewing. I haven't heard of the Good Time Boogie but I've been to similar. Something about good pig pickin, good liquor, and just some good Ole boys and girls having a good time I really miss. And I think much depravity might be an understatement.

Hard to say the Ravens did dirty until Crosby actually returns to play. Brooks was supposed to be healthy too and went months past his anticipated return date. If Crosby hasn't progressed as much as projected, it could definitely create cold feet. Like I said, no one will really know until he actually returns to the field.

Is there a defensive lineman somewhere we can convert to a LT?

We had a bottle of apple pie whiskey a few months ago. Tasted just like apple pie, so smooth and tasty you would swear it was out of your grandma's oven. The hangover the next day, not so smooth. Worth every damn penny we paid for it. That was some good shine.

The only one from the Raiders line last year would be JPJ. Tha was some of the worst OL play I've ever seen. The fact Jeanty got near to 1000 yards is a credit to how talented he is because that line sucked at pretty much everything.

My first experience with shine was from a jar alleged to brewed by Popcorn Sutton. I wouldn't be able to tell you, it tasted like turpentine. I had a jar of white lightning from the Popcorn Sutton Distillery from just before it closed. Tasted about the same. Either one would send your head into a whirlwind.

How? 3 shots and i lost 24 hours.

Qb is the single most important position on the field. That's why the conversation matters, even regarding backups. And it all depends on whether or not you think Bryce is a legitimate number 1 starting QB moving forward. In 3 years, he's yet to put 2 full game, franchise QB performances back to back. For me, that's a huge red flag from a guy that we spent 2 1sts, 2 2nds and our WR1 to acquire. If the Panthers do feel he's the guy, I expect a 5 year 300m extension on the horizon following the draft. If not, then reason would dictate you keep looking for a staring caliber QB than bring in a backup with zero upside to be a 1 year backup. Teams don't make it to the playoffs consistently without a good QB. You may think Bryce is the guy. I don't. But either way, without better consistent performance from the QB position, an improved defense isn't going to carry a limp dick offense deep into the playoffs year in and year out much less make SB or NFCCG appearances and isn't that the ultimate goal?

I looked and couldn't find anything from front office and NFL execs crowning Morgan as one of the top GMs in the league. The only thing I could find was a player's grade "leaked" from the NFLPA. What's your source?

I said could, not would. I recognize he has potential based on past performance. Compared to what KP has done, Howell has more potential and the physical traits to make noise. KP has small hands and a weak arm. Not something you want in even your backup QB. I've been hammering since last off-season before we re-signed Dalton, improve the room. Other than getting younger, I don't see how anyone can say we legitimately improved the room or even tried. We might as well have signed Josh Rosen. Dalton is still on the roster for now. That's 3 QBs unless we trade or cut him. He's still Bryce's mentor after all. Do you believe we are going to draft someone with potential and give them a legitimate opportunity to develop from the practice squad? Are we going to carry 3 QBs on the active roster? 4 for a developmental rookie? Are we going to potentially cut KP if we draft a rookie and he's outperformed? Doubtful. Cutting Dalton(if we can't trade him) and KP would be 8m in wasted cap space. I chose Howell as an example because he showed promise in his only full season as a starter. You could plug in another name with the physical traits and potential and what i said would still apply. KP showed almost nothing and was benched. I genuinely don't care if it’s rookie pick as long as there is the potential to develop into a future NFL QB. As much as I can't stand him, Bellichek was always developing a number 2 QB even with the GOAT as his starter. The wisdom of that was evident when Cassell came in when Brady was hurt week 1 and went 11-5 and almost made the wildcard, which 11-5 gets you almost any other year. I give credit where it's due though. Cassel and Jimmy G both came into the league as developmental QBs, potential QB1s, and went on to have careers. You never know if you never try. KP feels like a punt in addressing the most important position on the field. Bryce has never played 2 full games of franchise QB level football back to back. If Bryce progresses, are you ready to offer a 280m 5 year extension based off a one hit wonder year? If Bryce regresses and we need a QB in 27, are we going to trade a fortune away again to trade up to 1 to get one? Are you ready to do the past 3 years all over again? To me, it's not about Kenny Pickett. It's about the move itself. It was a feeble attempt to improve the QB room. We better hope Bryce succeeds, because if he doesn't, we literally have no backup plan right now.