SmokinwithWilly

Not to mention, only Lamar played on his 5th year. The other recent drafted QBs with the same team were given an extension around this time during the offseason. Bryce playing on the 5th year is not the likely scenario based on recent history.

My determination has come down to this. Based on recent QB history, has Bryce's improvement warranted 50m per season? Lamar is the only original team QB to play on his 5th year. The others took major deals at the end of the 3rd, before or just after the option was signed. Chances are, we're getting asked for the same. I haven't rooted for Bryce to fail. I've rooted for him to succeed so big that them signing that extension would give me no worries about our future at QB at all. We haven't seen that level of play consistently that this year. We haven't seen it in the past 6 games. We're about to be at a threshold with Bryce and I worry about what this front office will do. We have a history of bad decision making and Morgan has been part of that group making those decisions. I don't want Carolina in the same boat Arizona and Miami are right now. It has nothing to with being right. It has to do with wanting to win for more than a single season. We've never had back to back winning seasons. Faith in their abilities is not warranted at this point.

The fact he's done what he has with the poo show that is the Raiders says a lot. He gets hit so much at or behind the LOS

Rigging a game is hard. Influencing an outcome not so much. There have been calls made this year that have directly affected outcomes with no explanation where they came from. Look at earlier this year with the Lions/ Chiefs with an illegal motion call being made extremely late only after the TD had been scored. Also hard to ignore the study showing Chiefs receiving an unusually high amount of favorable penalty calls. Again, entertainment industry same as WWE. Good storylines are good for business. Technology has gotten so much better it's easier for fans to see. Goodell is also such a terrible liar and such an unlikeable asshat believing he's 100% above board is impossible after he preached the virtues of player safety while issuing a 25k fine to Aqib Talib after he said he tried to break Philly Brown's neck in SB 50.

Like I said, Rhule was a joke. He just tried to grab a QB and hope for instant success. Development was never in his wheelhouse. Why he was brought back for year 3 only to be fired 5 games in was always a mystery.

He also got one of the worst head coaches to ever show his face in the NFL. Matt Rhule was a walking talking joke. Sam improved once Rhule was canned. I'm not a Sam defender by any stretch but he got a raw deal with his HCs. Adam Gase and Matt Rhule and people wonder why he couldn't get his poo together. It's not surprising that he played better once he got to an organization that wasn't a train wreck at the HC position.

Some things can be explained by incompetence but other things make no sense. Random calls from NY to change calls with no explanation. Plays reviewed with the wrong call made the league apologizes for later. While it's difficult to outright rig, it's not difficult to influence outcomes. A few key calls at pivotal times. It's an entertainment business for a reason.

It was the right call for sure. But heads up to Goff for at least trying to take that lateral and go for it.

Crazy ending. Goff was pleading for the flag to be picked up

I don't disagree he's useless. He was useless before they signed him this offseason. We seem to be content with useless the past 2 seasons where Dalton is concerned.

The trade up cost was crazy, especially with the future 1st ending up being the 1st overall.

Agree. Atlanta game was fantastic. Last week vs NO was not.

Tepper back in the locker room. He was probably waiting for the game ball.

I would have loved to have seen competition at the backup position brought in last year when Dalton wasn't even under contract. There's a reason it's not done. Ask yourself why Jack Plummer was brought back to camp after a horrible showing in 2024. There won't be another QB capable of taking the starting job should Bryce get benched for another slow start.

You're not allowed to have this conversation or you're a hater.

I have no doubt they're going to exercise his option. I also have no doubt Dalton will be back and we won't even try to improve our QB room because we're good there and Andy is a good mentor for Bryce.

He's never had to compete for the starting job. Why start now.

One of the first things that crossed my mind. Stroud lobbied for Dell in Houston and they drafted him as a result. If we drafted XL because his father was lobbying for him it's definitely worth noting as bad as he's been.

Depending on the amount of the guaranteed cash, it could be 4. The signing bonus really.

I can. And depending on the reasons, the person rooting for failure could have a legit reason. Or he could just be trolling. If my options were choosing between a 5 year 250m contract and secured as our future franchise QB or Bryce imploding and being cut based on his overall performance thus far over his career, I rooting for the latter because I believe the first is a far worse option for the franchise's future. It all depends on how you view things. I'm not actively rooting for him to fail, never have, but I still don't see him as a franchise QB worthy of a franchise QB contract.

So people being pessimistic based on 3 years of performance and what could be deemed inconsistent at best this year is perfectly acceptable then?

Then you better have been chewing a whole lot of ass on this board because I'd say over half of it is actively rooting against Evero to be fired, XL to be benched, and other starters on defense to never step foot on the field again because they're bums and it's been that way since Week 1. As long as it's not Bryce it's OK to rip anyone else on this team to shreds.

This one has to go to Ransom. He was on the field. He made the game winning play.

Taking a look at their QB room with Tua looking like ass. Already out of the playoffs. No reason not to.