SmokinwithWilly

I guess a better question would be, if Jacoby Brisset was available and willing to sign here for the same amount as KP, do you think the Panthers would have signed him? 3366/23/8 94.1 QB rating in 25'. I don't, judging by the way the leadership has acted. Nothing they do says we're trying to get better. It all says we're trying to keep Bryce from feeling pressured. That's what I see and therein lies my problem.

The front office may think more of KP than Howell. The point wasn't that Howell was some sort of god on the football field. He's had a relatively good season once. That's potential. KP has thrown for 2500 and 2000 in back to back seasons and was benched in 23' That's not good. 13 TDs in 25 games in Pittsburgh as a starter. Howell had 3950/21/21 in a single season. I'm not proclaiming Howell is a franchise saver. I'm saying KP has never once achieved Bryce's best season and now he's his backup. This follows Dalton who was so terrible he should have been let walk last off-season but wasn't, again, no threat to Bryce. Jack Plummer, so bad in his 1st camp the Huddle wanted to chase him out of town, so he's brought back for a 2nd. If you can't recognize the pattern, that's on you. I'm not even saying I want Howell. I'm saying Pickett is so bad he could barely do in 2 years what Howell did in 1. We didn't aggressively make our QB room better. We made it worse.

Howell's only true starting season he was sacked 65 times, put up almost 4k yards, ran for 250 and 5 tds while throwing for 21/21. Lot of ints but he was also being asked to do a lot with lots of pressure and no RB help. I don't think it's even questionable to think he could come in and legitimately compete with Bryce right away.

Moton should be back in 27 just due to the guarantees. I can't see us cutting him and eating that cap hit. Trade might be a bit different, but how many teams trade for 20m tackles? I wouldn't be surprised to see us take 2 this year, 1 in the first and one in the 4th that has potential to play inside if they don't develop as quickly. Our line is awfully thin atm with the unknown injury Hunt got during the postseason. Even if Hunt's ok, we still lack depth. I could see is walking away from this draft with 2 tackles and a center, especially if we move down to pick up an extra 3rd or 4th.

You don't pay what we did to Pickett to compete for a backup roll. The job is his. Bryce is guaranteed starter. We may take a shot at a QB but it won't be anyone serious. Probably someone the same level as Plummer.

I said earlier I think we should have looked at Howell or Levis if he's released. Howell was not good in Washington as a starter but he was under constant pressure with zero running game. Levis, who knows. He has the tools but has been bone headed at times. Lance, maybe. He wasn't ready when he was drafted. I'd even go for a draft pick with tools over Pickett. Pickett is no threat to Bryce and that's what I believe was the entire point.

To sign a QB2 that isn't worse than Andy Dalton.

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Saw earlier they were looking to hang onto Brissett. He wasn't great, but he also had zero running game. I expect them to let him have a shot at the starting spot and see how it goes. If he busts out, they're looking for another QB next season.

The coaches and GM disagree. Well damn. A coach that got zero calls to coach for any other team and a GM that learned at the feet of one of the worst GMs in NFL history. Forgive me if I find their resume lacking. 3rd year starting QB that only eclipsed 3k yards on the last play of the season. He may be 24 but his extension is on the horizon. Bryce wouldn't have the unconditional QB1 spot on any other team with a competent GM. 1st round QB extensions come right about now. Are you willing to lock Bryce in at 50m a season for the next 5 years? If you aren't, you should be looking for plan B.

Just think, for a few million more than we signed Pickett for this season, we could have had Blankenship.

Bryce has not proven a damn thing to be QB1. We should be exploring options everywhere. Find someone with the tools who may or may not be able to develop, but at least has the physical ability to do the job. Pickett has none of those things. This is just a different way to keep any pressure off of Bryce. There will be no mid round QB.

Being a firm BY believer proves to me he was always the GM candidate after Fittershits was fired and the whole hiring process using a 3rd party was a charade. How anyone could watch a 1st overall pick struggle to get to 3k yards on the season and think fug yeah, that's my guy. Gawd damn. I'm not sure that Jordan is the worst owner Charlotte has ever seen.

Yep. Dave Tepper is still running this franchise. He's Jerry Jones without the Super Bowls, or winning seasons, or anything positive.

They have. We just have chosen to watch reruns of Welcome Back Kotter instead.

Lies. We will be taking a RB.

Because it's like having the choice between a poo sandwich with mayo or without. Who the fug cares, it's a fugging poo sandwich.

Will probably get beat out in camp by Jack Plummer and cut before the season starts.

I guess if Bryce gets hurt the season is already over and Pickett just insures a higher draft pick. Dalton could have accomplished the same thing, but hey, why not spend an extra 7 million to have someone on the roster that can't push Bryce at all.

Paperweight on Dave's desk?

One of my long time customers is recovering from a major concussion last year. He's been in rehab for 8 months and is still not walking without assistance and will likely never fully recover. I understand the competitive nature, but I'd have to seriously consider retirement with that history of TBI's at his age. The possibility of needing someone to wipe your ass for the next 40 years isn't appealing when sitting on that level of wealth.

Didn't see it posted so sorry if this is a double up on this thread. SBMVP headed off to KC. Walker's deal is for three years and is worth up to $45 million with $28.7 million fully guaranteed, per The Insiders. https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-signing-ex-seahawks-rb-kenneth-walker-iii-mvp-of-super-bowl-lx

At least they brought in someone who could potentially start a game or 6 barring injury. We still have Dalton, for now. I can't fault at least trying to get better, even if it is Tua.

I think viable option is being generous. Another hit to the noggin and his eggs are going to be scrambled like a Denny's grand slam breakfast.