SmokinwithWilly

I didn't move the goal posts. But anyone who follows football who wants to engage in a rational discussion can't argue that 10 7th round picks are equal to 10 1st rounders in value. The argument has always been we haven't spent as much on defense has we have on offense. Draft picks have value just like salary. We have not spent the same amount of draft pick salary cap on defense that we have on offense since drafting Bryce. It's not even close. Just the 2 1sts we used on Bryce, 2 overall 1sts have a value of 6000. That doesn’t even factor in DJ Moore or the 2 2nds. Bryce cost more than everything we've spent on defense in 6 damn years.

So from 20-22 of those 14 picks on defense, how many are still on the team. 2. Two whole picks. 2023 2 defensive picks in the 3rd and 5th rounds. Neither on the team. 2024. 2 and 1 on the PS. 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th, round picks used. 2025. 2,3,4 and 5 spent on defense. The entirety of what we've spent on defense doesn't even equal the one pick we used on Tet in trade value chart for draft pick exchange. You could argue we spent 30 draft picks on defense but if they were all in the seventh round, the value of those picks is next to nothing in terms of contribution. Day 3 picks rarely make NFL squads. They only make the Panthers because our roster is so threadbare as it is. Again, we've spent next to nothing on defense in terms of value picks on defense. If you're going to argue we've spent more on defense than we have on offense you're going to have to use a better argument than this.

You know why we've spent so much in FA on defensive contracts for next year? Could have something to do with next to nothing spent in the draft on defense until this year. When you don't draft anyone on defense you have to pay for them. You also have 2 1st round WRs and your QB on rookie contracts for next to nothing against the offensive cap for their position and a LT that hasn't been paid his top 5 contract yet. Care to try anything else?

I like Icky but he was the wrong tackle to take. Learning run blocking is much easier than learning pass blocking. Cross was pass pro ready. He was the tackle we should have taken without hesitation.

The first might have been a smart play by the defender. Let him go, illegal man downfield. If it was, great play by the D lineman. We were always taught to get to the ball even if the whistle blows. Never let a ball sit for just this reason. Weird poo happens. Better to have the ball in your hand when it does than not.

Sounds like there may have been a Time Life series or two in your household at some point.

Our line is built to run 1st, not pass block. Our LT was drafted as a run blocking mauler, not the pass pro ready. To top it off, our coach can't recognize which RB is actually producing in game. Another issue is we have a QB that can't play effectively from inside a tight pocket. He can't see the field. His sight line is below the shoulder pads of most linemen. Stepping up into a tight pocket is essentially going blind for him. Top OL play is always going to be an issue because unless we can keep huge gaps, his field vision will be limited. It's why he's so quick to bail and scramble. It's why I can't do floor seats with my wife. I'm 6'3 and my vision still gets blocked. She's 5'3 and she's blind. It's front row or regular tiered seats.

I don't know how you can say he did a good job fixing issues. He doesn't even recognize issues in game. Situational awareness is one of the things he lacks. He's probably one of the least flexible coaches I've seen. We do the same thing over and over. Defending DC offense is pretty easy. Stack the box and make Bryce beat you. Either he will or he won't.

I'm honestly looking beyond DC at this point. He's too green and is making too many simple mistakes. I think he's gone after next year. I think the intention in LV was to use Mayer and Bowers similar to Gronk/Hernandez in NE. That's never really struck me as Carroll's MO though after watching him for years out here in Seattle. He's talented enough and I think he just got lost behind the phenom that is Bowers because he couldn't develop in Carroll's system. I'm surprised Bowers is used as much as he is, though they really don't have anyone else. TE's don't really exist as focus receivers in Carroll's offense. I live in the PNW so I've been subjected to a lot of Seahawks football. Coaches other utilize their TEs. We should too. Tremble is OK, but he's always been a project as a receiver. Again, all this is of we could get him at the right price. I wouldn't pay a lot because we need to spend on defense.

If possible we should look at Mayer out of Vegas. He's disappeared behind Bowers. I wouldn't spend a lot but it was rumored he was on the block earlier this year.

Unfortunately under Tepper we've been exactly that. This is year 8 of whatever the fug this is. Maybe it gets better. Maybe it gets worse. It's hard to even remember what mediocrity felt like anymore.

In order to get in, Cam has to actually retire. I don't believe he's done that yet and has no intentions of doing so any time soon waiting for an opportunity for a comeback.

It's a concession he made to get the Tepper retirement package. 1 year minimum with Bryce to never have to work again. Sign me up too.

Bryce goes down at light contact. He gets hit on a QB sneak and he’s going 5 yards backwards

Pretty sure Moton wasn't healthy when we gave him that big fat extension. He had knee issues that he dismissed and said he was okay. Linemen with knee issues is never a good sign. For 44m I'd say I was ok too.

Think he would beat out XL for a spot on Sunday?

Tremble takes the snap with DB leading the way. Tommy likes to hit people and DB is a force. Win win

Oh Im just predicting the narratives after the games are over.

Week 16 rookie QB making his 1st start. I'd expect him to be. However, if he performs as well as or better than Bryce, then it's DC's gameplay to minimize throwing opportunities, etc etc

But he has severe issues with getting prepped from reports Ive heard. He relies more on athletic ability than actually watching and studying film. He's not prepared well on game days, so it's been said, and a lot of times it looks that way.

Or for being a controlling narcissistic asshat.

I went back and looked at the opening day roster of QBs. The only ones that I would have expected to be considered starter for the entire year that have been worse than Bryce are McCarthey, Ward, Fields, Penix, Tua, and Kyler. McCarthey was basically a rookie, Ward is a rookie, Penix had only started 3 games in his NFL career. Fields, Tua and Murrey were the only 3 with as much experience as Bryce. Maybe some would argue TLaw but I think he's had a better overall season still. Of the slated temporary starters, Wilson, Rattler, Flacco, D. Jones, Jones obviously took the job and ran with it, while the other 3 got replaced for their rookie draft picks. When it comes down to it, there really hasn't been many QBs Bryce has outperformed that were slated to be year long starters with the same level of experience.

There's a reason DC wasn't getting calls to be a HC. He wasn't ready. His indecisiveness is infuriating. His lack of awareness is mystifying. He jumped at the chance to grab the David Tepper retirement plan and who can really blame him. Maybe with time he can grow into the job. But we're on year 8 of our 7 year rebuild. I think I'm gonna need a hip replacement before we get a decent HC.

He's got a fractured bone in his left wrist. Having him not do a tush push into a pile is probably the smart thing.

Probably had to call a leadership conference.