SmokinwithWilly

If I remember correctly, we thought Jerry Jones was going to take Brooks so we traded up to take him. I wanted Frazier, no secret there, but we also needed an edge rusher, LB, safety, CB, pretty much everything other than DB and Horn. That's why I said we could have addressed a pass catching RB in FA if that's what it was thought Bryce needed to be successful. Even if it was a 1 year contract, there's always another available the next year. Rico is a perfect example. We just had too many long term holes to fill, especially on defense, to use that pick on an injured RB. Like I said, I get the logic of why and the likely mandate from Tepper, which is an entirely different problem with an owner dictating how a GM needs to build the team, and then is that GM really qualified or just a front guy. But when you look at the rest of the team, even if Brooks was 100%, we had just too many damn holes and we had already spent a chunk of our FA cap on Hunt and Lewis,and a 1st on XL. At some point Bryce has to elevate the players around him if he's going to be the guy.

I get it but it was still the wrong approach. Need a pass catching back, get one in FA. They're out there. Fill the holes that got you to a 2-15 record with starting caliber draft picks. Just about everything that has been done over the past 3 years has been to prop up Bryce and he still barely got to 3k yards. Part of why I'm still not sold on Dan. Just some really questionable at best team building strategies. The draft results this year were better, but overall, at the end of the season, I don't know that the team is really that much better from when he started. We were a 6 win team that got lucky GB couldn't score on 6 trips into the RZ and the Jets were a train wreck. 16 and 13 point offensive outputs aren't going to usually result in wins.

I loved his approach to cap he'll Hurney left us with. He also called time on a couple guys who were aging out of their contract wants. That was the good. The rest, he was just an ass and nobody wanted to see shorts hiked up that high on him ever. They're shorts, not a bra. Thank God one of the twins didn't fall out for the world to see.

We didn't have a healthy staring center. We had Corbett, a guard moving to center coming off a leg injury, BC as a backup role player and Mayes, another backup player. Chuba was fine and RBs are fairly easy to come by and get results when you have 2 road grading tackles and 2 new IOL. One thing watching other teams that have had high performance backs behind strong offensive lines has shown us is, blocking matters more than the back. When those backs leave to go elsewhere in FA or trade, their production drops off. We haven't had a true healthy center since Kalil and it's shown in our blocking. Taking a top end center over an injured RB to be a backup was an easy call to make. Even if we didn't take Frazier, we had too many starting holes on the roster to take a backup, especially one coming off an ACL tear. This wasn't a hindsight pick. Said it was stupid then not to take Frazier, and even more stupid to trade up for an injured back just because we though Dallas was going to pick him. By the 2nd round, there's not going to be huge differences in rankings. The blue chips are long gone and you need to start taking players who can start immediately, especially when you have holes all over. An injured RB is a luxury you just can't afford at that point.

Not true. Need factors in. If you have Barry Sanders backed up by Adrian Peterson, you don't draft a RB because he's ranked higher on your board than a position where you have zero starting caliber players.

So who we starting by week 7? Relying on Corbett is like being a 5 dollar scratcher to pay your mortgage and BC is coming off an Achilles. Those aren't immeduate full speed recoveries most of the time. I'd be really worried if the most reliable player was a center off the Ravens PS.

I made it about 10 minutes into the Swifty bowl before I turned it off. I think she had more camera time than the game.

And they definitely need to not make it part of the HoF accomplishment list anymore.

And a chip on his shoulder the size of BofA stadium.

I just want to know where they got whatever they were smoking when they made this decision. For research purposes.

Maybe having a Pro Bowl QB makes the Browns HC job more attractive now. Right. <wink wink>

3 day old gas station sushi.

They had Justin Fields. It's not like they could do any worse.

Some things just stick with you.

That's like Miss America being replaced Janet Reno.

These 2 aren't 3 lbs different. No way in hell.

Proof that the pro bowl is a joke.

And Ward

And if he doesn't work out, so what. It's not like Bryce's 3k yards are a high threshold to clear. Bryce shouldn't be guaranteed any starting position. He hasn't been consistently good enough. Even if someone not named Howell is brought in and performs better than Bryce, they should get the starting role. This isn't about feelings, it's about wins and you're not going to win many of those averaging less than 200 yards of passing offense a week.

He has potential. His year in Washington without a running game and under pressure almost every play he still managed to put up numbers. I'm not saying start him, but as a QB2 with potential, yeah, I like it for the right price. I hold no illusions that he's a franchise QB, but is he better than Dalton with age on his side and opportunity to get better? Yes. It's time to start throwing some darts. And let's be real. If Bryce wasn't a Panther, no one on this board would be screaming to trade for him if he was available.

How they treated the Baker/Sam thing was a joke. He was used as a DE on the PS. He may not have been any good here had he really been given a chance to succeed, but that whole situation was a clusterfug. I don't blame him for wanting out of this Tepper led poo show.

You underestimate the stupidity of our owner. Bryce shouldn't have got the 5th year but he did. He hasn't had back to back franchise QB level game performances ever. Our franchise is being built on hope and a determined owner who will not admit he made the wrong choice.

By the time you draft a QB and design and drafting the players to build around him, especially with the trade up we did, the rookie QB contract window is almost over. It's better to build the system and find the QB to drop into it before the 50-60m per season bomb drops or just draft from your position without bankrupting your future.

Kept Darnold and draft JSN. It's not like there weren't possibilities if we had been mildly intelligent.

Puka broke up that pick same as he did today on a near pick. I give players credit for making plays. Stafford has a SB win and is a perennial playoff QB while we have 8 losing seasons in a row. I'm no Rams fan but we'd be damn lucky to have gotten him instead of LA.