SmokinwithWilly

Bet I know why the Saints got the #1 spot.

He also seemed much happier on the field this year than last. I think all in all, he just likes the Chargers organization and being on the west coast.

In what world does Jack Plummer get brought into training camp in back to back seasons? If he wasn't good enough once, he's not going to be good enough the second go round. There's plenty of Plummers out there. Pick one.

I never understood the whole wait until the next draft class. Always try to improve the room. If Bryce is or isn't the guy is irrelevant. Brady was Bledsoe's backup. Eventually NE traded away Bledsoe, but then drafted, developed and traded away Jimmy G and Cassell for quality picks because they were good enough to start somewhere, which is the entire point of a backup. Being able to start in case of <insert reason>. It's just part of the business in the QB room. Your job is secure until it's not.

Dalton will get another year extension so his ends right with Bryce's 5th year.

Also wasted time for Tmac and Coker both, possibly XL even though I don't hold much hope for him. If Bryce isn't willing to work on his footwork and gets a 5th year, why should XL work on catching the ball, or running routes, staying in bounds, etc.

I hope so. This 5th year option has been a head scratcher to me so at this point nothing would surprise me.

He also says he trusts Dave to make the right decision. We've seen it take weeks to recognize the simplest of things like giving the RB with the hot hand the ball. Something this big? Maybe year 5.

Pretty much the MO of most of the coaches since Tepper bought the team. Get hired, work 2 of 7, get fired, collect your check.

He's already said he doesn't see an issue with his footwork as something that needs to be addressed.

I'd like to believe that. I really would. But I don't see DC turning over control.

I'm looking at the final drive, and that's where I'm laying the blame at Bryce's feet. Stepping up to the line, 38 seconds left, 3 time outs on the clock. 30 yards needed to attempt a FG. It's not Bryce's job to call the plays, that's DC's and it was terrible play calling. It's Bryce's job to read what the defense is giving him at the line. The middle of the field is open. Rams are guarding against the deep ball and bringing pressure leaving the middle of the field ripe for the taking. Knowing his line not holding up for long, Bryce should have read the defense, called the audible, and thrown to the middle of the field for 6- 8 yards, like you said, quick slants would have worked. Then run either hurry up or call a TO. We had time. He has to make the adjustments. Any QB has to make the adjustments. The pass Horn dropped hit his hands but was at his knees. Should he have slid and caught it? Probably. Was the pass a good one? No it wasn't. Both players were at fault, not just Horn. Let's not pretend that Bryce threw a beautiful pass that hit the receiver chest high right in the hands in perfect stride because that damn sure wasn't the throw. The defense didn't choke away a lead. They never had a real lead. Choking away a lead is being up by multiple scores late in the 4th and losing. We were up by 4 and handed the ball back to a potential MVP with an All pro WR and potential future HoF WR2. One score games in the 4th are a slug fest. 28-3. That's choking away a lead. I don't solely blame Bryce for the game, but you seem to solely blame the defense for the game because they went to prevent after losing Horn. You are forgetting the short field that the offense left them that led to the early Puka TD on one of our 2 failed 4th down conversions. Our defense has been given very limited resources over the past 3 years while we have tried to put everything possible around Bryce. We added a little bit to the D this year after giving up a NFL record in points last year. Our defense overachieved based on what they've been given to work with.

Sacks end drives but so does a guy getting in a QBs face and forcing a bad pass. I try not to get hung up just on sacks. I'd rather have a guy that gets 10 pressures and zero sacks a game than one that gets a sack and 2 pressures. The 1st guy is making an impact more often. That was the point I was trying to make. Being constantly disruptive is more important than just sacks. There aren't 100's of 1st round edge rushers to be had. I know that's where a lot of the elite ones are found. All I was saying is you can't close your mind to the possibility that they exist outside of the 1st. Just like every other position, you have to look for the traits that make an effective pass rusher. We haven't been good at doing that. We've been going more for RAS scores and metrics than guys that can actually play football. DJ Johnson is a perfect example. We chose the ideal metrics over a guy like Yaya Diaby that had the explosiveness and power to translate to the NFL game.

I don't think the Tepper takes are tired. I think they're there if you look at what's transpired from Reich to the draft process, Dalton 1.0 and 2.0, Plummer and the lack of even pursuing a QB3. Bryce has been shielded from QB room adversity like no one else I've ever seen. We've actually gone out of our way to keep him from having to play against anyone who could possibly be better. I don't think a lifetime commitment to Bryce exists. I think a commitment to prove his choice in selecting Bryce was the right one exists. When that dream is crushed, Tepper and the Panthers will finally move on. And when we/if we do, Dave and Dan will be right out the door with everyone else who believed Bryce was the guy, except for the guy that made the pick.

My alternative, tell Bryce he's playing on his final year and we're bringing in competition for the starting role. His play hasn't earned a 5th year option. Everyone seems to be hung up on these wins while forgetting how badly our offense looked all season from the QB position, minus a single game in Atlanta. His play has been backup caliber. Brissett, a backup that signed for 6 million per season, just threw for 3300 yards and 23/8 in Arizona in 14 games, with 12 of those being starts. Daniel Jones was having a resurgence before injury took his season. When you're playing less than backup quality, you don't deserve to have a guaranteed starter position for 2 years, especially when the 2nd year is 26.5m.