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I’m open to dealing literally anyone but you cannot miss if you’re going to deal Burns. If Philly doesn’t include the Saints 1st rounder I hang up. It’s two 1st rounder + imo Then there’s the whole we’ll have to hit on a pass rusher in the draft bit of this equation too.
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Lol at DB being untouchable but you’re willing to trade Burns
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Updated Cap for 2023 after the CMC trade……
*FreeFua* replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
Wait till they do Shaq Although this is a massive mess it’s smart to get this all out of the way next year. No more kicking the fan down the road. We aren’t winning the super bowl next year and I hope they realize that. Get your rookie QB and absorb your massive dead cap hit -
Position value + contract (cap space) + our window to compete should absolutely NOT make Brown untouchable
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He’s the one im most open to listening to offers on from our “core” Again, if kept he’ll be needing a new deal by the time we’re ready to compete Derwin James type deal
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PFT ARTICLE: The Panthers slide squarely into tank mode
*FreeFua* replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think the guy we should be trying to net a 1st for right now is Derrick Brown Call the Jets up. They can pair him with Q -
PFT ARTICLE: The Panthers slide squarely into tank mode
*FreeFua* replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah, we can tag Burns the following year after next. Landing the number 1 pick and getting a QB is the only way to turn this thing around quick. No rookie QB and new HC are winning a SB next year so absorb all the dead cap hits. Then 2024 you have a ton of cap. With what we hope will be our franchise QB in year 2. Our offensive line will all still be under contract in 2024 (minus Elflein) I’d like to see them keep Burns because good teams always need a pass rusher but at the same time if someone offers up 2 1’s I’m shipping him out. One first isn’t enough imo. We won’t get two 1’s so he’ll stay put -
PFT ARTICLE: The Panthers slide squarely into tank mode
*FreeFua* replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
Same If you’re doing it you do it 100% Those two idiots might just mess around one Sunday with the defense coming through and we accidentally win. Then this entire plan goes to sh!t because Detroit and Houston most likely aren’t winning many more if any more games too -
Welp… Stroud is the guy, right?
*FreeFua* replied to TheMostInterestingMan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Detroit and Houston are literally right there If we beat Detroit later this year we are f*cked. -
Even using the word “haul” is dumb These are all late round picks. The ONLY way this turns out to be OK is if we end up with the 1st overall pick. If we have to start throwing away some of these picks to move up then it’s just a mess again
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So they don’t get a 1st Man the dead cap does not match the return at all If they don’t end up with the 1st overall pick now it’ll be a f’n disaster
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Multiple second day picks LOL
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Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also
*FreeFua* replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
I agree with your last part No rookie QB and new coach are coming here next year and winning a SB At best if we hit on our QB next in the draft we’re looking at being very competitive in 2025 (that’s best case scenario). Year 3 with our new QB and QB. The same year a new Derrick Brown deal would kick in. I’ll take the picks and new rookie deal with some extra cap space instead of a Derrick Brown contract I’m strictly talking Shaq, CMC and Derrick Brown. Burns, Chinn, Horn, unless someone is giving us the moon I’m keeping them. Although of those 3 I’m open to listening most on Chinn. -
Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also
*FreeFua* replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
So to you that’s worth giving him a big contract (he’ll want to be one of the highest paid DT’s when his time comes) and losing out on more picks when we’re essentially starting a rebuild all over and lack draft capital? -
Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also
*FreeFua* replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
What good will paying a non passing rushing DT a big contract when our hopefully franchise QB is entering year 3 of his rookie deal do? Brown’s value will never be higher than it is right now. The acquiring team will get him on his rookie deal with a 5th year option We aren’t going to be competitive next year. Brown will need a new deal by the time we are competitive again if everything goes according to plan. Burns will have a new deal then as well. Is it smart to have all that cap space tied up in 2 positions on the DL. Probably not. If Brown was getting to the QB then you’d have an argument He has 1 TFL and 0.5 of a sack this season. If someone is willing to give up a 1st rounder plus you have to do it. -
Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also
*FreeFua* replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Cool? We are rebuilding. I like Brown, he’s coming into his own but he’ll be on year 4 of his rookie deal next year. I’ll take a 1st rounder + for him. Those picks and cap space not being used on a DT will come in handy when we’re trying to build something around our hopefully franchise QB on a rookie deal -
Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also
*FreeFua* replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
We play Atlanta twice in the next 4 weeks and I’m worried we might win one of those games which will absolutely f*ck us One of those games coming before the trade deadline. So trading off some of these guys needs to happen asap CMC, Shaq and I’m listening on Derrick Brown. Rookie deal who is coming into his own. A non pass rushing DT is a luxury we don’t really have a need for right now -
Panthers "listening" on Shaq Thompson also
*FreeFua* replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
This is a no brainer Should've been doing this sh!t last year with guys like Donte but nope. Idiots thought we were winning the SB -
I actually think he’s going to be a good player for a long time but again it’s a positional value thing. He’s in year 3 so if everything goes according to plan and we get our rookie QB, Brown will need a new contract in what will be our rookie QB’s 3rd season. I just think the money could be spent better than on a DT. Again, I am not giving Derrick Brown away. Someone would have to offer real value. I like Brown.
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Yep which is what I’ve been trying to say. We also have a ton of space the following year and still have our “core” locked up which includes 4/5 starters on the OL I know you don’t like hearing it but getting the first overall pick so we can land our QB combined with the pieces we have locked up gives us a real shot at turning this thing around FAST. I’m not having a fire sale but if someone offers something of real value for CMC I’m trading him and the same goes for Derrick Brown
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Shaq will either be cut or restructured. And Elflien is the only other guy that really saves us anything
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The math on the cap ain’t rocket science guys. Jeez Robby was going to get cut after this year no matter what given our cap situation. But good lord what a dumb f’n contract
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They got next to nothing in return for him. I would’ve sent him home and had him sit there all year then cut him. Robbie wins in this situation. DJ might as well lay into the WR coach this week now
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Wouldn’t surprise me He is close with our own Jack Easterby