CelibatePimp

This is the same way you entered last night's argument without knowing the context. Today I was talking about Tannehill having a worse oline than Cam's last season and having better passing stats. That fact is indisputable so what are you arguing about? Unless you know some stats that I don't know, there is not point arguing MIA had a worse oline than ours.

Arguing with you is like talking to a stone seriously, it's like you're brain dead and I am not about to start again with you today.

And we have very promising young guards on either side of our line who contributed to our line performing better than that of MIA. Obviously, we are doing something better than they are unless the results don't matter to you.

But the results were terrible. They had a worse oline than ours and Tannehill was sacked more and hit more than Cam. Gettleman got free agent linemen and drafted some to help Cam. How much the Dolphins paid for them or where they were drafted does not really matter at the end of the day since our strategy proved better than theirs.

No one wishing we do well as a team is against Cam getting more weapons. No one in this thread has said not to get Cam more weapons. What I have said is that he has been outperformed by some of his peers with lesser supporting talent and thus some of the issues he has cannot be attributed to a lack of a talented supporting cast alone. Nothing more.

Read a dolphins blog during a game, the Tannehill hate is pretty strong. Even their coach wanted to have him benched last season.

What are you talking about? Cam had three pass catching options, two of which are far better than Tannehill's. Tannehill had the worse oline. Stewart rushed for 809yds so maybe they had the better RB but he has a better supporting cast? I don't know how you are able to do this lol.

If you are taking Wallace and Landry, two of Tannehill's then I can understand why you will contend he had a better supporting cast. I however will be taking Olsen and KB over Wallace and Clay and hence why I think Cam had the better supporting cast.

Exactly how I feel. How about the other two?

He got overpaid, simple as that. Our TE has consistently performed better than him. Ok, let me ask you this, who would you have, Wallace or KB, Greg or Clay? Landry or Cotchery? If you can answer those then maybe we can agree on who has better "weapons".

Their oline was so solid that they allowed more sacks and hits than ours did. Or you do not pay attention to the stats? How about our WR we took in the first who had more yds than their WR? How about Greg Olsen who performed better than Wallace? Do you prefer those two over Greg and KB?

Yeah but Tannehill had him by like 900yds. Cam would not have made that up with two games. I swear every player that performs for another QB is a weapon unless it is with us, we call them scrubs. Rookie Jarvis Landry has never had a 1,000yd season, but I am sure he is a better weapon than a 1,000yd KB. Mike Wallace? Lol. Tannehill did not have a single 1,000yd receiver.

Can anyone name any weapon on the Dolphins team? Ryan F'ing Tannehill, passed for more yds, higher completion %, threw for more TDs and had a higher rate than Cam with a far worse oline. But yeah, it's weapons.

Before last season, one issue with Cam was holding the ball for too long and taking sacks or scrambling. So how can you honestly say that our line looked like that? That's a paradox.

Our line has not been that bad until last year. Just stop it right there.

Cam has a probowl TE, a bruising running game featuring Tolbert, Stew with change of pace back in Fozzy. A solid #1 WR in Benjamin and a trusted possession receiver in Cotchery. Not to mention a mauling offensive line (lacking only a true LT). Our defense is not a joke also, having finished top 10 in the last three seasons. It's easy to see the grass greener on the other side.

I just can't Dave. Maybe some other time.

I wasn't the one claiming Cam had the record.

Who does Brady have? Outside of T.Y. Hilton, there is nothing in IND. SEA has Lynch and that's it. Falcons have Julio and nothing else. Bucs? SF had only a TE. I mean there are QBs out there who have had to make do with average talent. Cam is not the only one.

Good job Dave.

This argument that you joined in started with comments about Dalton's passing numbers. It's the reason I am putting everything back in context. I talk about the injuries because it affected offensive production and seems to support a notion that Cam has been neglected. Truth is, no one can predict injuries. We can draft and bring in players but we cannot claim the FO is not interested in helping Cam when injuries hamstring production. If Stewart had been healthy for as long as Cam has been here, I am sure our rushing stats will be way better than they are now.

I am changing my argument? If I recall it was someone who went from Cam being the best at passing after 4yrs, to being the best at rushing to being the QB with no weapons, to being the QB with no rushing to what now? Dave415, you're really outdoing yourself. People can read you know. And the OP has not talked about rushing stats in this thread.

Every other young QB in the league playing better than Cam is due to them having an elite supporting cast. Poor Cam has no weapons and no one to help him.