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Panthers Select Ja'Tavion Sanders TE - Pick 101, Round 4
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Pleased with this one. Good value and a need. -
This is probably why TJ Tampa won't be the pick.
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Would you trade back from pick #101 to add a fifth rounder?
Billy Goat replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
Morgan said he's been picking BPA (not sure I believe that but whatever). He also said they want to come away with a corner today or find one after the draft. The BPA right now is a corner. So no, I wouldn't trade out of that pick. -
Training camp is roughly 8 months since the injury, so I don't see why he won't be there for that. 8-9 months seems the new norm with this type of injury recovery.
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Who are the day 3 prospects you want to see us target?
Billy Goat replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
Tampa is BPA and fills a need. That would be a great value pick. I'd like one of Tampa, Franklin or Sanders. Please just take BPA with this pick and don't trade down. -
Panthers Select Trevin Wallace LB - Pick 72, Round 3
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Panthers Select Trevin Wallace LB - Pick 72, Round 3
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Oh boy.
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At this point just take your guy. Moving down and getting a second rounder makes sense. Moving down for pick 157, a player that's likely off the roster in a year a two, is pointless.
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That's a dumb trade.
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Panthers Select Jonathan Brooks RB - 46th Pick, Round 2
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Panthers Select Xavier Legette WR - Pick 32, Round 1
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I mean there is. Seattle drafted Metcalf in the 2nd and gave him a $72m extension after year 3, before he got into the final year of his rookie deal. If they had drafted him in the 1st round he'd be getting that deal 1 year later and they'd be saving a ton of cap space. -
Panthers Select Xavier Legette WR - Pick 32, Round 1
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah I know that. You were suggesting if he can play he'll get a deal before the 5th year (like Deonte Brown) making the 5th year not that important. My point is if he was a second rounder who can play they'd be looking to extend him before that 4th year. The 5th year option gives them at least one year extra having him on a rookie salary. For a potential WR1 that's at least $20m in cap savings. -
Panthers Select Xavier Legette WR - Pick 32, Round 1
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well if they have the 5th year option they have him on a rookie contract for 4 years before needing to worry about an extension. If they took him at 33 they'd be paying him after 3 years. If he pans out that will save them what, at least $20m in cap space for 1 year? -
Panthers Select Xavier Legette WR - Pick 32, Round 1
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Chances of a 5th rounder becoming a solid starter are below 10%. I don't really understand why people are butthurt over giving that up. Sure hate the pick, but the trade was fine. -
Panthers Select Xavier Legette WR - Pick 32, Round 1
Billy Goat replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
No real issue with the trade. It's worth giving up a 5th rounder (considering they have two close together) for that extra year on the contract. I would've taken Mitchell though. -
In his latest mock he had us trading back for an extra 5th and a second rounder next year. That doesn't exactly help with the "other positional needs".
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I don't really see the point in trading 33 if you're not getting an extra pick or picks this year. You're giving up the opportunity to take whoever falls out of the first round and only get what's likely a mid second rounder 12 months in the future. Sure we don't have a second rounder next year but we have a first, so if they want to get that second rounder back just trade down in next years first round. That's assuming Bryce works out. If he doesn't they'll have bigger problems than not having a second round pick.
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Xavier Legette and Peyton Wilson 33 and 39
Billy Goat replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Panthers
Joe Person has us taking Legette at 39 in his 2.0 mock. He had us trading away 33 to the Jags for 48, 153 and a 2025 second rounder. Another terrible trade to go with the one he had in his first mock. -
Matt Miller: 1st round could have 8 WR’s
Billy Goat replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
This happens every year with one specific group. 8 WRs aren't going to go in round 1. Once the first 4/5 are off the board teams will start picking up the better talent from other position groups.- 48 replies
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Official Panthers Visits/Prospect Meetings Tracker
Billy Goat replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah that would be reaching. Almost definitely there to be had at the top of the 3rd if they wanted him.- 109 replies
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I could've sworn we made a trade for a very good WR this off-season and didn't have to give up a draft pick to do it.
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All set up for a WR at pick 33 after this.
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Ain't no way I'd make that trade. Move down 25 spots in the 2nd round for a 5th rounder and a 2nd next year that will be closer to a 3rd round pick. If you go by the trade value charts we'd be losing in that trade as well. There'd need to be a late 3rd/early 4th for that to even resemble a fair trade if you go by the charts.