Billy Goat

Someone's proneness to being injured isn't necessarily correlated to their weight, or in this case their vulnerability to being injured because of their low weight. Russell Wilson is very rarely injured and he's the same weight as Murray.

I was thinking about this yesterday. Not many no.1 pick QBs go into a good team from day 1. We have a good defense and a good OLine. With better coaching we could've had a winning record and made the play-offs and that was with 3 garbage QBs. Whoever we pick has a great foundation to start with.

I suppose it's a possibility if they swapped picks with Houston. 1st pick for Houston's 2nd and 33rd picks. You could then use picks 33 and 39 to move up if they found a trade partner towards the end of the first round. I don't see it as a likely scenario though.

Does raise eyebrows that he showed up heavy to the combine and did no drills and now on the day he will actually do stuff he won't get weighed. Was he purposely sitting out at the combine because he knew he'd perform badly carrying an extra 15-20lbs?

"Game tape is what's most important. Hopefully it's two or three years of production, you'll see 1000 plays on tape and that's really who the guy is. You get to the combine, yeah they run around and they're going to throw the ball great but no-one is in front of them no-one is chasing them." Does this really sound like a GM who's going to take Richardson with the 1st pick?

I'd say Young is the better prospect. His height doesn't scare me more than his weight. If I thought he'd be around 210lb come September I would pick him without question over Stroud. If I was picking today I would take Stroud because he's the safer choice all things considered.

Seems like they added two void years to Shaq's contract?

Overthecap now has us at $24m. Seems like they update the Shaq numbers.

Have you seen all the contracts they've been handing out? None of the cap hits have been more than $3.3m. They can easily do another deal for a WR like Chark.

I wonder if they'd still be interested in Thielen should should they sign Chark? If those two were signed we'd probably be done at receiver and would target the BPA on the defensive side.

The difference between our situation and The 49ers is we're having the opportunity to pick the Trevor Lawrence of the draft. It's a lot easier to be swayed to pick someone else when you can't pick the no.1 guy.

This never really made sense when the original Info was he was looking to sign for a contender. Maybe he could've been persuaded had the money been too good to refuse but we seem to be handing out sensible contracts.

You don't move up to 1 and give away your best receiver + multiple high picks on a hunch someone might be worth picking at that spot. They know who they want.

Tender PJ Walker? I mean I wouldn't really want to do it but he's cheap and won't care about sitting behind whoever we draft. It feels like a waste of cap space signing a higher profile QB to sit behind whoever we draft.

I'd like to see us get a TE like Schultz or Gesicki. It's a good draft for TEs and one will probably be there in the second round but rookie TEs usually take a year or two before they start to produce. TE is going to be an important part of Reich's offense so a good, reliable vet is needed.

I still don't get why people think this trade down stuff is anything more than hot air. The only reason the Texans contemplate a trade up would be if they thought the Colts would jump them and there's no way Carolina are going to move down to 4.

Someone who won't cost a lot. I think if we're going to spend a chunk of cap on a reliable target for our new QB it should be on a top tight end like Schultz. There's no true WR1 in free agency so get a very good TE instead. We can probably get one of the top 5 receivers in this year's draft at 39 (or move up slightly).

I wouldn't trade the pick. We will favour one of the QBs more than the other. Something will set one apart from the other, even if it's marginal. Why risk the Texans picking the guy you ultimately wanted? I don't think the Texans will trade up anyway. If our staff are of the opinion that the top 2 are both franchise quarterbacks then it's pretty likely most other organisations would have the same opinion. There'd be no need for the Texans to give up any picks when they can stay where they are and get a franchise quarterback.

Absolutely no chance. The only reason to move up as high as we did is to make sure you get one of the top 2. Any other talk about it being a strong class with all the prospects having strong traits or whatever is just talk for the crowd. It will 100% be either Young or Stroud.

You'd have to think we'd have some sort of interest. Granted he wants a lot of money but you're giving up less draft capital for what's one of the best QBs in the league, the alternative being giving up more draft capital for what is essentially a gamble. If we're lucky enough to draft a franchise QB we'll be handing out a similar sized contract in 5 years anyway.

It would be quite the turnaround if in the space of two weeks the NFC South went from having no quarterbacks to Carr, Lamar and potentially Garoppolo (bucs) after the first week of free agency. The outlook would suddenly look a lot less rosy for the Panthers.

With Fitt's comments about now maybe being the time to go up and get their guy because they don't plan on picking in the top 10 anymore, the chances of a trade are extremely high. The only question is how high do they go and when do they make the trade. He made a comment about deciding which way they want to go (draft or FA) in the weeks following the combine and leading up to FA, to give them a clearer picture of what they do in FA (bridge or starting QB). This suggests they could try and get the trade done in the next couple of weeks.

I'd be fine with them giving up 9 this year and two future firsts of they thought Stroud is a franchise QB. There's obviously risk attached but the likely alternative is signing Carr to a massive contract and drafting a project QB which will most likely be a bust. Both outcomes carry big risk and could hamper the organisation going forward in differing ways if they're unsuccessful.

If we’re talking purely draft picks it’s probably going to take a 2023 2nd, 3rd and a 2022 4th or 5th to move into the back end of the second round/top of the third round. That’s way too much for one of these QBs when they could probably get Mayfield for a 2022 4th or 5th.

A tough one to call. They must be tempted to take one of these QBs at the top of round 2, but they’ll have to give up more draft capital to get one of them than they would if they trade for Mayfield or Jimmy. I think it’s more likely they decide to trade for Mayfield or Jimmy.