CPantherKing

It was 3rd down with 3 WR and no DJ. That was what I pointed out... Got the 1st down with the penalty. DJ is not showing up again. Especially in the red zone. Disappointing for a 5 year receiver who is suppose to be a #1.

They took DJ Moore off the field

DJ Moore with the drop. DJ being DJ. Not showing up 3 weeks out of every 4 weeks.

The discipline on defense is much more apparent with Wilks in control Now if only McAdoo can do the same for the offense with his coaching instead of being safe and vanilla. Guess McAdoo does not trust Baker.

Defensive coaching/game planning looking much better under Wilks

Barno > YGM

Amare Barno should have been getting more playing time

Baker is playing scared. His hitch step wreaks with fear.

Baker looking uneasy in that pocket... even with 5 seconds in the pocket

Panthers run blocking OL ftw

Panthers best shot. Keep Lamar contained and take away the deep pass. Let him keep passing until he makes mental errors. Mental errors are Lamar's weakness.

3rd down? Can Brown beat Linderbaum?

Luvu with the boo boo

So you want to weight the QBs who never get an opportunity against all the 1st rounders who do get an opportunity. Try using snaps/starts. Use win%. Use GWD. Use any stat where you only weigh the QBs who have been given an opportunity to showcase. Are you going to tell me that all the QBs who never got an opportunity for various reasons would have never thrown a single completion or TD. Would they have never thrown an INT or got sacked for a safety? You know they all would produce something. What logic tells you they are a big fat 0? Because they never got a shot? So, if the opportunity did not fall in place for Warner or Delhomme, they would have never been capable of success in the NFL? They obviously were always capable and had to wait for the opportunity. The baseline is QBs who have received opportunities. Counting the QBs who have never gotten an opportunity would be skewing the data when the aim is the production of QBs in the NFL. You must remove all QBs who never receive an opportunity or make sure you reference you are counting all QBs who never stepped on an NFL field during a game. You may as well toss in all the QBs from college that tryout for teams and never get talked about eventhough you know that the NFL misses and there is a percentage of those QBs that would be successful in the NFL. You don't believe not a single one of those no names would never have success in the NFL. They just never got their opportunity since opportunities are limited. There are more Warners and Bradys out there. I guarantee it. You are wrong in tossing in all the QBs drafted/undrafted and never given a snap. I could take all the resumes/interviews in HR that get thrown out without ever considering them, and find that a large percentage of the resumes tossed found success with other companies. You would just count them as a 0 and use it to prove how your choice of employees are so much better than the resumes you tossed out. Look at all QBs given starts in the NFL, then get back to me.

And only 4 of these 11 first rounders won the SB for the team that drafted them. Now, 3 of the 6 non-first rounders have won for the team that drafted them. Also, 2 of 6 have gone to multiple SBs with the same team over this period of time while 2 of 11 first rounders have gone to multiple SBs with the same team over this period of time. You are guaranteed to waste draft capital on 1st round QBs. You can find just as many QBs outside of the 1st round that can win the SB for your team. You emphasized how these 1st round QBs keep coming up short for the team that drafts them. And there is a formula to find them consistently. It does not emphasize measurables or top collegiate QBs with power programs ranked by traditional college scouting and the combine.

Darnold has had 32 Losses and 4 game winning drives to prove his worth. If the front office cannot see their terrible decision, they all need to be replaced. A good evaluator of talent would know a players worth in 3 hours of practice and 10 games started.

Then you should take out the Mannings too because they are outliers for #1 overall picks. What does it look like if you take out the Mannings and Brady? Get rid of both sides of the skew. Not looking good for 1st round picks without the Mannings - NFL royalty. SB winners: Top 10 - Mahomes (2 years, rookie contract); Stafford (12 years, 3 contracts, not for drafted team). mid to late 1st - Joe Flacco (5 years, rookie contract). Others: Foles (5 years), Wilson (2 years) SB Losers: Top 10 - Newton, Burrow, Goff, Ryan. Others - Kaepernick, Jimmy G, For additional QBs starting their careers in the past 25 seasons. Winners. Warner, Roethlisberger, Brees, Rodgers. Losers: Delhomme, McNabb, Hasselbeck, Grossman. So, when you remove Brady and the Mannings because apparently we need to get rid of outliers and people whine about Brady skewing the numbers in favor of non-1st rounders, the numbers are.... EVEN. If you want to increase your chance of losing the SB, then draft a QB in the top 10 picks. If you want to have the same chances of getting to the SB or winning the SB, then don't waste all that draft capital on a 1st round QB. Spend it on your defense or a freakish receiver with great hands.

QBs in the top 10 historically do not win SB championships for the team that drafted them. You can hope for your Bradshaw, Manning or Aikman, but you'll have more return with a Brady, Wilson, Foles, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Warner, Johnson, Favre, Brees, Montana, Unitas, or Staubach. 1965, 1967, 1970, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1989, 1998, 2004, and 2017 are the 10 drafts that produced a top 10 SB winning QB for the team that drafted them/traded for them on draft day. 2 - 3 - 9 - 3 - 1 - 6 - 11 - 6 - 13 [the year spread between top 10 QBs] Considering the Mannings are of the same family, you have large gaps in between a top 10 QB who is immediate championship level. We had to wait 11 seasons for the Mannings and then another 13 seasons for Mahomes. The impact of top 10 QBs have been a rare find over the past 3 decades thanks to free agency and rookies only having 3 to 4 years to prove themselves for a new contract since 2011. I expect the next top 10 QB to win a championship for the team that drafts him to be Arch Manning in the 2027 draft (10 seasons after Mahomes) and then we may not see another until 2040. Reality hurts. Stop drafting QBs in the 1st round and you will have a better chance of championship success.

You don't acquire a QB with hindsight or going off their ranking coming out of college based on traditional scouting methods. This has proven itself more wrong than right time and time again. Over the past 23 seasons there have been 8 1st round QBs and 6 non-1st round QBs who have won the SB. There is a consistent near 50/50 split when it comes to historical top franchise QBs and successful franchise QBs among all NFL teams. The draft capital spent on these 1st round SB winning QBs totals 14,790 points. Non-1st round SB winning QBs total 967 points. Only 3 of these QBs were #1 picks and 2 of them were named Manning. Investing in a 1st round QB is costly and it does not give a team an advantage of winning the SB. Approaching the acquisition of a franchise QB is much like investing in companies. You want to hit more than you miss, and learning on what not to invest in is more important than investing in the QBs everyone is talking about. You will pass on some good QBs, but you will not collect the failed QBs. I've been working with data analytics since I was a kid and have since made a career out of it. I loved using data analytics on players in the NFL. There is more to it, but if you follow these simple rules, you will hit on many QBs capable of taking your team to the SB. QBs must have GWD success in college (this will not get better in the NFL), QB has a hero mentality regarding their offense (think firefighter), demonstrates champion leadership ability in HS and college, QB has a sigma personality, and QB has professional sports pedigree. If a QB hits on all 5, you draft them #1 since they are a pedigree franchise QB. If they hit on 4 of 5, they are rare and get drafted if they fall to the late first round. If they hit on 3 of 5, they are a hidden gem that can be developed quickly on the NFL level - draft them in the 3rd to 5th round. If they hit on 2 of 5, they are a top franchise back up QB. If they hit on GWD only, they are a potential project and you sign them as a UDFA to run the scout team and prove they are worth a 3rd QB spot on the roster. The rest of the standard measurables can be easily scouted and coached. You will also need to be patient with this because it means you will have to eliminate an entire pool of QB draftees for a given year. I have never had more than 4 QBs qualify in a single draft class. Most draft classes will not produce a single QB based on this criteria. You will go multiple drafts without a QB, and will need to spot the players who other teams have missed to fill out your teams roster. Only 3 draft classes have produced multiple QBs worth drafting based on the positions they were drafted since 1995. Since 1995, the only drafts a QB would be added to the roster from the draft pool using this criteria would be 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2017, and 2022. Other strategy's will work too. This one I use will allow you to hit on 4 of every 5 QBs your team will add from a given draft class.

Jimmy G and CMC are a Playoff/SB winning backfield. That backfield is going to rack up the GWD. The Panthers could of had them. This front office keeps getting it wrong.

They can't consistently produce GWD and will choke in the clutch, in big games, and the playoffs more often than not. They look good and pass the 1st round test though. Just not good when it comes to GWD.

Jimmy G is the GWD king I'd rather have a QB who does not look perfect and makes minor mistakes in the game, but can rack up the GWD. Too many of you want the Phillip Rivers, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, or Cam Newton type QB. Couple a RB like CMC with a QB like Jimmy G and you will have the best GWD backfield in the NFL

Not pure luck. Good coaches can take 3rd round QBs, 6th round QBs, undrafted QBs, and turn them into Championship/HoF QBs on the regular. They have written books about it and have taught future NFL coaches how to do it too.

And Stephen Davis needed an athletic pass catching RB like DeShaun Foster to complete the running game. With CMC gone, the Panthers need to find a top pass catching scat back to make them respectable for the playoffs. They are using WRs, but that is easier for defenses to read. They know Shenault isn't going between the tackles. Currently the Panthers are trying to use Shenault, Hubbard, and Blackshear to cover for this major weakness on offense.

I'm blaming it on the DL. Burns, Brown, Ioannidis and YGM. They make up one of the worst DLs in the NFL against the run. Teams love to target Burns and Brown with the running game when they are next to each other. Here's a taste. Let me know if you want more. Don't watch if you don't want to know the truth. Keep your eye on 95 before they pull him from the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7CrxOAxZac Every Mixon run