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This should have been expected when CMC went to improve the 49ers to a SB contender. The Rams went after CMC too because they knew he would be the difference. The Panthers felt he was expendable. That tells you all you need to know about the front office. The Panthers effectively chose to get a handful of mid to late round draft picks to improve a conference team for the foreseeable future. The front office raised the level of difficulty for the Panthers next rebuild. It's not like winning in the NFL is not hard enough. Let's make it even harder!
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Well when you have a GWD QB who can use CMC effectively in Jimmy G, then you will win many close games if you don't blow teams out. Who could of had Jimmy G and CMC working together in the offseason? That would be the Panthers.
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Quote ‘DJ needs to catch the balls when thrown to him’
CPantherKing replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Checked out now? DJ is producing at the same level he has his entire career. He is a #2 WR and the Panthers want to believe he is a #1. -
Was it good for the Panthers future? Panthers made it even tougher for their success in the NFC for the foreseeable future. Panthers have to be the best in their division. Then they have to be better than the Rams, Packers, Eagles, and now 49ers. I believe the Panthers just made the 49ers the power of the NFC by giving them CMC and Jimmy G. Panthers front office has to build a team that will beat CMC and the 49ers now for future seasons. Definitely not a good deal for the Panthers. I hope they hit the lottery on those late round picks they got and prove me wrong. I have yet to be proven wrong by the moves this franchise has been making with Tepper steering this ship.
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The winning core for offense was Jimmy G, CMC, Foreman, Ameer Abdullah, Chris Olave or Garrett Wilson #1, DJ Moore #2, Dan Arnold/Tommy Tremble TE, Laviska Shenault #3a, and Brandon Zylstra #3b. Chose not to trade for Jimmy G. Traded away CMC for picks. Chose not to sign Abdullah as a back up RB/Slot receiver/Returner. Chose to not upgrade starting WRs. Chose to trade Arnold. Chose not to sign Zylstra. Instead, we got Baker Mayfield at QB, a later round picks that will not amount to much with this front office, Foreman, Chubba Hubbard/Shi Smith, DJ Moore as the #1 WR, Anderson cut during the season, Ian Thomas signed as the starting TE, Shenault, and a slow developing TMJ with poor hands/route running. Big L for Fitt and company.
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Landry, Crowder, Diggs, McLaurin. They were all more productive in the clutch, scoring TDs, and catching their targets from the same QBs that threw the ball to Moore. Why can't Moore produce better than these receivers when given the same QB. Is it because Moore is better and the QBs just hold him back? They are not holding the other WRs back... or maybe they are and Moore is just the least productive WR.
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Herbert's ceiling is Phillip Rivers, Drew Bledsoe, Matt Ryan, and Dan Fouts. Good QBs. Great game managers. Shaky in the clutch. They don't win championships. Excellent 4 minute drive QBs, but will choke in the 1 minute drive. I'd take a clumsy/awkward QB that makes the occasional mistake during the game, but comes up clutch when the victory is on the line. Montana, Brady, Warner, Johnson, Delhomme and Garappolo. The Rivers, Bledsoe, Ryan and Herbert QBs will always win the beauty contest, but they won't take home the championship trophy. Here are the current list of top 13 active clutch QBs in the NFL. They have the highest GWD% of 30% or higher: These are the QBs you would want to build an offense around if playoff wins and championships are your goal). Herbert is below 2 QBs the Panthers could of had on their 2022 roster. 1. Cooper Rush - 75.0% 2. Patrick Mahomes - 44.4% SB 3. Tom Brady - 41.3% SB 4. Lamar Jackson - 40.0% 5. Tua Tagovailoa - 40.0% 6. Jimmy Garoppolo - 39.3% SB (w/ GWD Monday night, Jimmy G jumps to #3 over Brady) 7. Russell Wilson - 36.8% SB 8. Josh Allen - 35.1% 9. Dak Prescott - 33.3% 10. Taylor Heinicke - 33.3% 11. Justin Herbert - 33.3% 12. Nick Foles - 32.5% SB 13. Matt Ryan - 30.1% SB 6 of these QBs are 1st rounders. 2 have been to the SB and only 1 has won the SB. 7 of these QBs are not 1st rounders and 4 have gone to the SB with 3 of them winning. I believe with the addition of CMC, Jimmy G will make it 4 clutch SB winning QBs for non-first rounders. In the top 10 is 1 top 5 pick, another 2 top 10 picks, 1 late 1st round pick, 1 second round pick, 1 3rd round pick, 1 4th round pick, 1 6th round pick, and 2 undrafted QBs. The bottom 5 active QBs who will be the least likely to lead a game winning drive starting with the worst is: 1. Davis Mills 2. Mac Jones 3. Sam Darnold 4. Justin Fields 5. Jacoby Brissett. Baker Mayfield comes in at 41st. PJ Walker is tied for last with 0%. In PJs favor he has only had 3 opportunities to lead a GWD, but he should produce a GWD before he racks up his 5th loss if he is good enough to win in the NFL (DJ did help steal PJ's first GWD by forcing a 50 yard PAT that was missed). This shows you how good Cooper Rush has been. The Cowboys lined Rush up for 4 losses going into the 4th quarter and Rush pulled out 3 wins for the Cowboys from those possible losses.
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Herbert is a good QB that is not clutch. Back to back panic plays in the 1 minute drill.
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hesitation and choke by Herbert on that first play for the 1 minute drive
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Now we get to see if Herbert has what it takes. Driving the ball with patience in the 4 minute drill was good. Now, the clutch 1 minute drill test for Herbert. He failed this the other week. Good QBs that aren't clutch will not win you a championship unless your D carries you. Plenty of those QBs.
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We currently have the #2 pick in the draft :)
CPantherKing replied to Varking's topic in Carolina Panthers
The last QB (not named Manning) selected in the top 5 to win a SB for the team that drafted them was Troy Aikman in 1989. Elway would have been the last top 5 QB to win a SB in 1997/1998 if you allow for draft day trades. It took him 15 years to win a SB for the Broncos. Hard pass. Trade down. Jeff George, Drew Bledsoe, Rick Mirer, Heath Shuler, Steve McNair, Kerry Collins, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Michael Vick, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers, Alex Smith, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Sam Bradford, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, Blake Bortles, Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Mitchell Trubisky, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance have been all the rest since Troy Aikman's success for the Cowboys. These are the type of QBs that get you no where and traditional scouting misses on. Do you want to add to this list? I know there are some that will continue to hang on to hope for Murray, Burrow, Tua, Lawrence, Wilson, and Lance since they are the newest to the long line of top drafted QB flops. A couple of them may get to McNair, Collins, Ryan, and Newton levels, but they will at best be a 10+ year franchise QB who never wins you the big game against QBs that scouts believed were lesser value QBs coming in to the NFL. -
Cam, Allen, Heinicke, Teddy, Darnold, Baker, Walker All these QBs have had receivers who could catch 60% to 70% of their passes. It wouldn't happen to be DJs 50% reception rate, his league low 4 TD season average among #1 WRs, or his career league low 8.3 yards per target? Could never be that DJ Moore is actually the problem filling the #1 WR, Clutch receiver, playmaker role... could it? Steve Smith had a span of 5 seasons in his 30s to end his career as a Panther with an injured Delhomme, Clausen, and an immature NFL passer in Newton. That span in Smith's 30s had more production and plays made to win games and go to the playoffs than a young DJ Moore in his prime. Smith was called washed up, and DJ Moore is lauded as one of the best WRs in the NFL by some Panthers fans. Steve Smith was better in his 30s than DJ Moore ever will be in his prime. Moore needs to be demoted to a #2 WR before he is completely done in the NFL as a starter after 3 more seasons. All Steve Smith needed in his first 5 seasons as a starter at WR was a washed up journeyman and an undrafted QB from NFL Europe. Smitty would make Teddy and PJ look good. Smith won games and made the plays to put the Panthers in the SB and 2 conference championships while taking over the NFL and winning the triple crown. In case you forgot or never knew what a #1 WR should look like by his 4th year as an NFL starter check out Steve Smith in 2005 with Jake Delhomme, Keary Colbert, Kris Mangum, and Stephen Davis as his supporting cast. That 2005 offense would never have gotten to the playoffs with DJ Moore as the #1. Every year there are at least 3 or 4 WRs who come into the NFL that are better than DJ Moore. There are only 32 #1 WR spots in the NFL.
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Because Brown was playing nose and responsible for both A gap controls. He bit on the counter step and left the MLB with no shot to come down into the A gap. Left the MLB open for a free angle by the LT going to the second level over top the A gaps behind Brown. Shaq crashed the 2 hole perfectly. Brown was shaded over the center to the 1 hole. He was suppose to push the center down into the 2 and hold the 1. He swims over the center on a run play into the 2 and now he is next to Shaq. He was not suppose to jump over the center to the 2. Browns responsibility were both A gaps while filling the 1 to the left of center. He made all those OL blocks easy when he decided to jump swim into the 2. Anyone can see Brown shaded to the right of the center in the 1 pre snap. Anyone can see Shaq crash the 2 to right of center. Anyone can see Brown stand straight up and jump swim to the 2 leaving the 1 open for the cut back. Easy seal for the center. This was on Brown. You don't need a LB crashing the 2 with the DT jumping behind the crashing LB. Why you won't admit how bad Brown messed his assignment up is beyond me. It's plain as day where he was shaded, where he jumped, where the RB was going and how the blocking was set up for the 1 hole on the left side of the OL. Luvu's responsibility was to scrape off Browns left side and fill behind Shaq. Brown was alerted to the LBs crashing that A gap (2 hole). Both Shaq and Luvu were stepping up to fill the 2 hole pre snap with Brown shaded to the 1 hole. Brown Fd the play.
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Have you ever played this game or studied it? Check the 2. Cut back to 1. Faked the dive up the 2. Browns responsibility A gaps for the nose. Just because the 1 (A gap) is 5 miles wide from Brown and Burns screwing up the play at the LoS does not make it magically become the B gap that Burns was in with the GUARD sealing him.
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I know you like to feel you are always right, but you're wrong. Video proves it. Drake baited Brown into the 2 gap and cut back in a huge 1 gap between the center and guard. Tackle blocked down on the MLB and guard kicked out Burns who got too deep. That was between Brown and Burns to the inside of the LG with the LT free release to the MLB. Drake ran all the way to the sidelines after going through the huge A gap because it was wide open. Only explaining it in detail because you may not see it on all the highlights or the 22 on repeat.
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Fitt is just going to keep trading for failed 1st round picks in hopes the 1st round picks he rated highly like Darnold, Mayfield, and Henderson will prove they are worth a 1st round pick.
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These 1st round picks on the Panthers are far from clutch
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Can DJ be the playmaker he needs to be???
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Burns and Brown imploding
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Run straight at Brown. Horrible
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The first round picks on offense are not doing much to prove their worth
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1st down if it were not for Ickey
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Ickey killed that drive with his 5 yard mental mistake
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Foreman is not CMC. Stop it with those developing screens to Foreman
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free sack for Burns Lamar messed up. Failed to identify the defense and blitz.