CPantherKing

Makes a difference when your QB can see over the OL

Ok defense. DONT SUCK

Looks like we have offensive weapons with an average starting QB

Dalton is going to double 1st down in 1 drive?

How much did Bryce factor into the Panthers giving up on getting Carr?

Jalen Carter looking good. Imagine having Micah Parsons and Jalen Carter? If only there were people who knew that was the way to draft for the Panthers...

QB strategy is a big deal. Drafting 1st round QBs with zero competition & no baseline for starting seems to be a very bad idea. It was obvious Bryce Young needed to be perfect to have any success in the NFL. We were told he was at least near perfect. Parcells even said he'd have to walk on water.

When you get your opportunities XL, don't drop the ball. 1st round pick WR is expected to be an immediate threat. Especially, when they trade up to get you. You should be better than Chark and KB in their first years with the Panthers. You need to be better than Colbert in his first year. Definitely need to be better than Gettis and LaFell in their first years. Clausen, LaFell and Gettis in 2010 looked better with Jeff Davidson calling the plays than Young, XL and Mingo with more experience and a better play caller. 2010 trio cost a 2nd, 3rd and 6th round pick. 2024 trio cost 4x 1st round picks and 2x 2nd round picks Due to Young and Mingo, XL has to pay off bigger in his first season than any 1st or 2nd round WR the Panthers ever drafted to make up for this highly draft leveraged franchise.

Canales has worked with Wilson, Smith & Mayfield. He didn't move on from them did he? Reich & Canales have both benched Young. Young consumed a bulk of the Panthers' draft capital & free agency the past 2 seasons all for offense. What will it take for people to realize Young isn't a professional athlete, nevermind a leader of professional athletes?

Young can't find passing lanes from the pocket, look off the safety, escape the pocket efficiently and overcome NFL defensive speed. He has to do all of those to be average in the NFL. He's a project with a very steep hill to climb to be a back up. I'll never understand how spending millions evaluating a QB & then giving up millions more in value away with multiple 1st round draft picks & a 1st round WR can be supported by all the available information.

Young should have been benched after the Dolphins game

Everytime I see Garrett Wilson it hurts. Those players you wanted to draft being playmakers reminds me how bad the Panthers front office has been

For a player that must fill a leadership role, I project them as a 1 to 2 decade investment, and collect information on their family structure. For Bryce, I reviewed and classified his parents' interviews, speaking engagements and publications. This ranged from their time during HS, his success in college and his preparation for the NFL. This was all available knowledge prior to the draft. There was much to be impressed about, and I understand how anyone would come away thinking Young is polished and ready to be a professional. In my system, I have a list of 9 red flags for potential championship level leaders, and his family philosophy/structure raised 5 of them. The bold is my past research directly from Young's family. The rest is my assessment with some examples to illustrate the 'family' component of championship leaders in professional sports. 1. Fun fun fun: This is the overall motivator of his family view on sports. This treats sports as a recreational stepping stone. Professional sports are meant to be a passion for excellence to be enjoyed by your audience and celebrated by your team. Joe Montana and Tom Brady are top level examples of this struggle for a passion. 2. Internalizing outer obstacles and adversity into the family unit. This presents a lack of self-reliance and the inability to find ones self to move through adversity as a leader of a championship team. He knows himself more as his father's passions and family virtues. It appears that his parents have not prepared him to ever leave that family unit and form a new family of his own. Todd Marinovich v Peyton Manning family structure/philosophy is a prime example of this effect. 3. Fear of being a cliché. This subconscious anxiety is surfacing now. The family philosophy is hard work and dedication to overcome perceived limitations. This is fall back preparation. Champions never bring up this fear because they know they can win by outworking their competition. A champion will present agile preparation allowing them to be ready to counter the next few moves of their competition or doubters. This is what Drew Brees and Russell Wilson were mentally prepared for coming into the NFL. 4. Deserves rewards from working hard for their family. This positive reinforcement will be counterproductive as a professional. Champions reward themselves by working hard for their team. One must be fair to their invested teammates as family and priority while standing firm on personal virtues that may oppose family desires. This should lead to motivating and inspiring their team. A champion cares for the others on their team and leads them to care for one another. This is their professional marriage and commitment that their parents must encourage for them to take alone. Aaron Rodgers, Troy Aikman and Jim Kelly are the examples of this necessary quality. Jeff George, Josh Rosen and Dan McGwire played to bring home accolades for their parents. 5. Focus is on the family business of psychology and sports training. Professional football is temporary and he must be ready to have a fallback when he wants to get out. Family fall back is their primary goal. Use football for networking. Expand his sphere of influence. "THAT'S THE END GAME." Near and far professional planning are football focused for championship leaders to develop a team into their family and reach for a dynasty together. He should not be concerned with how he impacts his parent's goals or that they're an easy out for him professionally when adversity hits. Jimmy Clausen fell directly into this problem, and Matthew Stafford is the exact opposite of making his own team his family with strong guidance from his well prepared parents to build his own life. Leadership philosophy is something that comes from family for young athletes going into professional sports. Personal leadership philosophy does not emerge until executive function is observed in late 20s to early 30s. This is why choosing a HC/GM and aligning philosophies of 9 young players' families (core leadership) is crucial for a championship team with dynasty potential.

Let Canales do what he's proven. Give him a vet QB 28 to 30 yrs old. Let him draft mid to late round QBs he likes. Use draft capital to build the defense for the next 2 drafts. Trade Young for a top backup QB with potential Canales chooses this week.

Vets and 3rd round picks. Keeping Young healthy to trade for Cooper Rush is my expectation. Start Dalton with Rush as his backup until Rush gets his chance. Give Rush a contract extension if Canales likes his development.

Young got benched because Tepper, Canales, Morgan & Dalton agreed he is not on pace to be an NFL starter. Keeping Young healthy is important to trade him for anything helpful. The likely target should be Cooper Rush. Cowboys want a backup with Rush & Lance hitting free agency after this season. Dalton knows Rush & his development. Canales has a gift for developing 30 year old QBs. I'm sure Rush was on the short list of QBs they studied following his 2022 success. I could see Dalton starting while Rush catches up for 6 to 8 weeks. Rush would be a good place holder with promising upside. 2 to 3 seasons of Rush-Dalton before Dalton retires.

You let Canales & Morgan bring in their QBs to develop as back ups behind Dalton starting now. Let's see if Young keeps the #2 spot with serious competition. Cooper Rush would be an easy trade if Tepper's willing to let go of Young. RIdder is on a practice squad. Go with vet QBs to build a team until Arch Manning? Maybe Canales polishes up another 30 year old QB like Geno Smith or Baker Mayfield? Dalton and Rush were together in Dallas.

I caught it with my research/assessment. I also caught hate for it too when I made it known. His parents both spoke about it and Young was clear on how he looked at his football journey in life. I can dig it back up if I have to, but at least people are waking up now. I thought Tepper wouldn't do this until next season because of Nicole hanging on to her QB pick like they've hung on to Chuba. Maybe Tepper convinced her to move on quickly like he does from his employees in other businesses.

Right now, Dan Morgan is trying to figure out how he keeps getting it wrong at several positions

Other teams having success because they farmed the Pathers draft capital. Can't say I didn't see it coming. When you give that draft capital to the rest of the NFL, you better hit on your few draft picks.

Boston Yanks in the 40s. Rams are the closest with Bradford and Goff. Then they bailed on Goff after 5 years for an old vet to win a SB. In the modern draft era 28 QBs have been taken #1 and 8 teams have taken multiple QBs at #1. Patriots 2 (Jim Plunkett 1971; Drew Bledsoe 1993) 22 yrs- Falcons 2 (Steve Bartkowski 1975; Michael Vick 2001) 26 yrs - Panthers 2 (Cam Newton 2011; Bryce Young 2023) 12 yrs - Browns 2 (Tim Couch 1999; Baker Mayfield 2018) 19 yrs- Bucs 2 (Vinny Testaverde 1987; Jameis Winston 2015) 28 yrs - Bengals 2 (Carson Palmer 2003; Joe Burrow 2020) 17 yrs - Rams 2 (Sam Bradford 2010; Jared Goff 2016) 6 yrs - Colts 4 (John Elway 1983; Jeff George 1990; Peyton Manning 1998; Andrew Luck 2012) 7, 8, 14 yrs. Does not look like a list you want your team to join.

Call in the offensive captains and let them light a fire under the team by holding players accountable. Oh wait... nvm. Panthers are cooked.

They have 13 wins in 27 games on bad teams who have replaced their coaches. They give bad teams a decent chance at winning. If Young produced close to them, many here would be cheering Young in his development.

I know the WE NEED A 1ST ROUND QB NOW crowd will disagree with this, but this is the best play for the Panthers. I'd immediately sign Desmond Ridder and trade for Aidan O'Connell. Let them compete with Young. Let that play out over the next 3 seasons and draft Arch Manning if none of them are holding on to the starting QB spot with consistent GWD.

I was with you. I laid out in detail how bad trading up was for the team and that drafting a 1st round champion QB to build around is a rarity. Only contending teams can afford to plug and play 1st round QBs. Bryce is definitely the worst QB value taken at #1 in the modern draft. JaMarcus Russell was likely worse as a QB.