CPantherKing

You do accomplish that with a lot of luck in a suck division when you as the GM take the team from top 4 in the NFL in production to #23. Well if you are satisfied with division championships, you make a valid point. Now for the people who want to see the NFC Championship game and Super Bowl, that brings up a lot of questions regarding the way the coaches and front office are running this team. After 4 straight division championships (if that ever occurs and it probably will not) and no NFC Championship game under the teams belt, then we will see what you all say. The Panthers are going to need to win the NFC South with 7 or 8 wins this season. The home schedule is brutal, and the Panthers do not have the coaching or personnel to match up against most of the teams they will face in 2015. This team is not being built well enough to compete with the Packers, Cowboys, Eagles, Seahawks, Giants, Colts, and Texans. All of which play the Panthers this season.

Who I expect the Panthers to draft: 1 - Owamagbe Odighizuwa DE UCLA 2 - Jaquiski Tartt S Samford 3 - Ameer Abdullah RB Nebraska 4 - Dezmin Lewis WR Central Arkansas

There is more to a draft, than just drafting players. The quantity as well as the quality of the players count. Gettleman has missed on some quality, and has missed on a lot when it comes to quantity. Based on production and starts by a drafted player the Panthers rank 20th with a 48 point value on their picks over the 2013 and 2014 drafts. The top team is Green Bay with a 91 point value for their picks. Nearly doubling the Panthers draft pick production. Puts it into perspective using measurable values instead of opinion. For example, no matter how you subjectively view AJ Klein or Kony Ealy they have not started games or produced near as much as other teams draft picks over the same time. You can talk someone up all you want, but until they produce at the same level as other players they will not carry the same value as those players who are producing. Think of it as return on investment to date. So if by solid you are stating he has done an average/mediocre job in the draft. I agree. Other GMs have had strong and good drafts - better than solid.

He will have trouble on the NFL level. He is extremely talented, but has shown a huge lack of focus in developing his game. Very sloppy in his all around game.

You know what you have in Cam Newton. If you like it, he is the franchise. If you don't, deal him for something to a team who wants to work with him. Stop trying to change Cam's game. Let Cam be Cam and win with it. Otherwise, part ways. Bill Walsh made it known that while he had a system designed for the offense, the thing about Montana is he would have those moments he went away from the design. Walsh wanted that in his offense. You live with the failures and learn from them. Tom Landry was known for his system over player mentality. It wasn't until he trusted his gut and went with Staubach who would deviate from the system at times that he won a Super Bowl. The lesson is to embrace the failures of your QB if you believe he is the one to lead the franchise. It will make all the difference. It was the coaches who needed to accept their players, change their mindset, and trust in their players perceived flaws. The coaches needed to become more sound to win championships. Let Cam be Cam!!!

I thought Thomas Davis was not a UFA until 2019. He would turn 36 if that were the case. Why an extension? Maybe I am wrong. As for Charles Johnson he is near the end of his time with the Panthers. DEs in a 4-3 get a lot of wear and tear and once you hit 30 it is time to take a reserve role or move to LB in a 3-4 to lengthen your career if that is possible. It would not shock me if we land one or two DEs in the draft and make Johnson a post June 1st cut saving the Panthers 10 million against the cap this year.

Well looks like Hardy will go to Dallas or Seattle. Two of the teams in the Panthers way for a Super Bowl. Well at least Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, and Brandon LaFell are in the AFC. What sucks is all 4 of them have better odds of winning a Super Bowl than the Carolina Panthers. So, 5 of the top 8 GMs in the NFL go after players the Panthers had to get them to the next level. Seems like the Panthers are just a farm team for the NFL elite. These 8 GMs play off the weaker GMs. I hope Gettleman has something up his sleeve, because it just seems this team is getting weaker and making the stronger teams even stronger.

If I were to make you drive in a car with a bad brake line and an air bag that does not work one year leading to several near fatal collisions, and then the next year I say I am taking care of you by fixing the air bag in that heap of junk, have I done my job to protect you? Fix the freaking OL Gettleman and stop saying you solved the problem by tossing in another retread. Even Jonathan Stewart made it nationally known that all you need to do on the offense is get some better offensive lineman. Stewart said he would be thinking he was going to get blind sided on every play if he were in Cam's shoes. Get better starters and make the likes of Remmers, Norwell, and Oher the depth when the starters get hurt. Stop using the rally cry about HogMollies while giving Cam and the running game lame cows.

Michael Oher at LT. You have got to be kidding me. At least Nate Chandler is ready to step in.

I can pick any of you for GM of an NFL team that has an IQ over 100 and you all can play GM from your home computer and never see the inside of the stadium or meet any of the players you sign. And you know what? I will be assured of a 6-8 win season just about every season with you all shaking it up if the team has a season that goes 5 wins or less. And you will have a season every 4 or 5 years that will produce 10+ wins. You could get rid of the front office and turn your team into a reality competition show and the fans of your team can buy Virtual GM memberships to vote for what players are kept and what coaches are kept. The team would cut the salaries from their overhead and make more money off the entertainment value of the team. Plus, their ticket sales and merchandise would go up year round. And you will still be guaranteed a 6-8 win season with a 10+ win season every 5 seasons. Hell, I could get football baby to make all the decisions and I would get the same freaking results. You are going to have 6 to12 teams in a season finish with 10+ wins. You are going to have 6 to 8 teams in a season finish with 5 or fewer wins. The talent level of the players will get you wins in the season. The skill of your coaches will get you wins in the playoffs. A GM is accountable to both of these aspects of the team, and the overall record and playoff production is representative of your GM. The GM competes against 32 other GMs and only the top 8 are successful enough to retain. You gauge a GM by number of 10+ win seasons and number of playoff wins. If a GM is not skilled enough to crack the top 8 in 3 seasons and maintain that for a few consecutive seasons at a time, you get a new GM. Choosing to retain a GM who is not motivated to be the best in his profession is a recipe for team mediocrity. This leads me to Gettleman's statement, "I've seen many teams win the Super Bowl in March. The idea is to win the Super Bowl in February. That is the goal." Tell Seattle, New England, Denver, San Francisco, and Baltimore that load of garbage. There are severe flaws in Gettleman's statement. He is dismissive of the action to motivate and follow smaller goals to a larger goal. He is already putting emphasis on the larger goal without any attention to the steps that must be successfully attained to be put in a position for the larger goal. This shows a severe lack of collective efficacy. I call his self efficacy into question as we all know his ability to create a strong sense of belief in his organization and fan base is extremely poor. This has been demonstrated by his comments and comments of players and coaches under his watch. Gettleman has proven to me to be mediocre as a GM. He is not even close to the top 8 GMs in the NFL. The question is how many seasons will it take for the rest of the Carolina Panthers organization to realize this truth? He should stick to scouting. It does not matter how talented the players are that you bring into the team if you fail to create the chemistry and environment necessary to believe in victory every moment, every day, and every month. Even in March! I will leave you all with this sage advice.

The title of this thread should be "Hakeem Nicks using the Panthers as leverage again."

No contest to a felony versus not guilty of all charges for a misdemeanor. Not quite sure how you think the later would not receive a lesser penalty if any at all. Anyway moving on. And Drew Rosenhaus will not negotiate terms until he knows the penalty since that will determine Hardy's value in 2015.

Gettleman has signed a bunch of garbage the past two offseasons. We still have Roman Harper on the roster penciled in as the starter. Sign him to a 2 year minimum deal with incentives if he stays healthy. Give him the option to work with TD and his people. Gettleman is fine with tossing out his free agent signings mid season. You have Oher, Remmers, Chandler, and Byron Bell can come off the couch and play just as well as he did last season. Upgrade over last season easy, and you can always draft an OT regardless of round to work into a starting spot. Given the Panthers OL situation, this is a move worth making if you can get him for the minimum.

That is an awful stable of WRs. No respect from any defense. KB getting double and tripled for an entire season again. Get another receiver who can make plays and get open. Kelvin Benjamin does not deserve this. Meanwhile you see the likes of Odell Beckham Jr and Mike Evans having legit receivers taking pressure off them and getting them open. Brown and Ginn? really? What a waste. Only need one of them. Waste of time working on Brown if you are replacing him with Ginn this season. Panthers need a #1 or #2 receiver to pair with Benjamin. Tired of having a #1 followed by a stable of #3 receivers. Cam has got to be sick of it as well. Please, draft a wide receiver to be the #2.

Would have been nice if KB had a Rueben Randle or a Vincent Jackson clearing out secondaries for him, but KB had to man up and be the focus of the secondary with no one to pull pressure off of him.

Both Landon Collins and Jake Fisher would need to fall a ways for the Panthers to get them at those picks. All the good DL, OT, and QBs are gone in the first 20 picks. The top 2 safeties and LBs are typically gone as well. When you are sitting at the bottom of the first round the BPAs the fall are typically RB and WR. 2014 BPAs that fell to the late 1st were WR and TE. Kelvin Benjamin, Marqise Lee, Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson, Jace Amaro, and ASJ. 2013 It was WR and RB. DeAndre Hopkins, Cordarelle Patterson, Robert Woods, Giovanni Bernard, Le'Veon Bell, and Eddie Lacy. 2012 It was WR, LB, RB and TE. Doug Martin, Stephen Hill, Alshon Jeffrey, LaMichael James, Reuben Randle, Bobby Wagner, Coby Fleener and Lavonte David. 2011 It was WR, RB and TE. Mark Ingram, Randall Cobb, Torrey Smith, and Kyle Rudolph. 2010 It was WR, TE, and LB. Demaryius Thomas, Dez Bryant, Rob Gronkowski, Golden Tate, Sean Lee, Navorro Bowman and Brandon Spikes. Past 5 seasons of players who dropped to the end of the first round and into the second round. They were projected higher by "experts". This season I am expecting that the BPAs dropping to the late 1st round and 2nd round to be Melvin Gordon, Todd Gurley, Davante Parker, Devin Funchess, Jaelen Strong, Dorial Green-Beckham, and Devin Smith.

Would not be the least bit surprised if the Falcons have Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson as their DE tandem in 2015.

Greg Hardy is not suspended. Therefore he cannot be reinstated because he is an active player. He is an ACTIVE PLAYER. He was designated as exempt for the Panthers. This is a roster designation just like IR or PUP. This was done so the Panthers did not have to cut him. This only carries over for the Panthers. Now the commissioner can keep him exempted as a Panther, but once his contract expires with the Panthers the exempt status carries no weight. He becomes a free agent and unless the team he signs with asks for the exempt list the Commissioner cannot unilaterally exempt him from the team he signs his new contract with for 2015. The league could discipline him under their player conduct policy, but this will be thrown out in court and the NFL loses. If the Panthers had no desire to sign Hardy for 2015, they should have just cut him and given him his guaranteed money for the year. All in all the NFL has no leg to stand on and will lose at every turn in this situation.

Here comes another offseason from hell. Maybe we can win 7 or 8 games and win the division again. I don't see anyone of value wanting to sign with Gettleman in free agency. Only those who need a stepping stone to other teams. I think it will take at least 3 or 4 more offseasons before people realize Gettleman will not be able to retain the players he drafts or bring in quality free agents from other teams. Essentially the Panthers will become a farm team for the rest of the NFL. Has Gettleman been able to extend or sign any top tier players the Panthers have in the past 3 seasons or has it just been the bottom feeder players looking at getting some money before they bomb out like Nate Chandler? DeAngelo Williams to the Saints. Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson to the Falcons.

This is Evans playing catch with another WR to warm up. Not a route at full speed. Not impressed. You don't see anything like this from Evans in game highlights. He usually used his speed to separate and relied on accurate passes from Manziel to hit him the numbers or lead him in full stride. Evans constantly got small and short armed catches when contact was involved. He Rarely goes over the middle with traffic around. All you need to do is watch FSU v. Duke in the ACC Championship game and Texas A&M v. Duke in the Bowl game to see the difference between the two receivers. You can put 2 or 3 DBs on Benjamin and he does not care and loves to get physical. You put 2 or 3 DBs on Evans and he fades away. Evans also disappears in the redzone. Evans got away with his speed and Manziel leading him with great passes. He losses those advantages on the NFL level with the Bucs QB. Now he needs to be bigger and stronger than his competition and earn his money over the middle. He reminds me of Darrius Heyward Bey coming from college to the pros.

Simply put this woman is a gold digger and was cut off. She will do and say just about anything to take Hardy down if she does not get the money. Her initial report to police is listed as a simple assault. Now she describes aggravated assault and battery. She has some scratched and small bruising. Now she is in a sling beaten from head to toe, was thrown around like a rag doll, could not escape the apartment (which she continually tried to enter), and was choked when there were no marks or mention of choking on the initial police report when the police saw her. She turned down medical attention for pictures at the hospital from the officers. Now she is tossing everything at the wall trying to get Hardy. She turns the weapons Hardy has into a scene from some over the top tv show and claims she knows he does not have permits and licenses for them. Then she gets the restraining order against him, but continues to stalk him and trys to bait him to get him to violate that restraining order. She did not call 911. Hardy did. Then a friend of hers calls 911 later from the security desk after they found out Hardy called 911. And the girls fled the scene when police arrived to talk to Hardy. Then they go talk to the girls and they cook up this messed up plan. So, CMPD calls Hardy in the morning to tell them what the girls have done in regards to the warrant. Hardy turns himself in to police and goes through the hellish motions of a vendictive gold digger hell bent are getting her piece. She is dumb and has been running her mouth anyway. Just need to get it recorded and end this garbage. She loves to tell people how she will get Hardy to continue paying for her rent. Tables will be turned soon enough on this gold digger. She is about to find out what happens when you make false reports to defame and extort a person.