CPantherKing

This. And why it is not over until there is a trade or movement. Not just NTC garbage or telling a team they are out. Could make a complete change again. This tells you that there is a war going on between Watson and Texans. We know Watson wants to be near family and Mom. The two closest locations are Panthers and Falcons. We know Watson would prefer the Falcons. They have history and he is deep in the ATL community. We know the Texans want the best compensation for Watson and do not want Matt Ryan traded to their division rivals. We know the Texans need to unload Watson before they can really dive into free agency. Watson is trying to force the Texans to send him to the Falcons. The Texans only want the Falcons as leverage. The Panthers give the Texans the best compensation with no fall out of Matt Ryan going to their division rival, and is the second closest destination for Watson to his home. Watson pulled that stunt of the NTC after the Texans went home last night. So, now you get the Texans move. They have now threatened Watson to block the Falcons and ship him further away from home. Leverage. Texans are communicating to Watson that if he doesn't want to play ball, they have the power and can decide where he goes. Panthers are not off the table. Texans want the Panthers compensation regardless of what Watson thinks he can do. Browns are just another play in this insane conflict the Texans and Watson have going. I still don't want Watson and think it would be a huge mistake. I wish the Panthers would announce they are no longer seeking Watson and will not trade with the Texans.

There's a long list of franchise/HoF QBs you would have laughed at over the years as possible trades. Would you have laughed at trading for Mark Brunnell, Kurt Warner, Warren Moon, Jake Delhomme, Tony Romo, Steve Bono, Matt Hasselbeck, Steve Beuerlein, Tom Brady, Jeff Garcia, Brad Johnson, Kirk Cousins, or RIch Gannon? My guess is you would have laughed them all off. Someone has to give them their opportunity before everyone realizes their value and wishes they traded for them. The ones that laugh always miss out on these QBs. Have you even seen Rypien and Buechele? Buechele's being protected by Reid and moving up as Mahome's back-up for a reason. Rypien is quietly sitting on the Broncos roster being protected by Elway. Broncos moved Drew Lock as the backup because of Rypien who they tendered as an RFA. My top 2 trade targets have already been taken. Those are who remain, and I trust them to lead a team before a QB like Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield, or Sam Darnold. If you keep laughing off these type of QBs, then you laugh off the type of QBs that lead NFL dynasties. It's not a majority of 1st round QBs who are leading teams to NFL dynasties.

I don't think it mattered. Tepper looked foolish when Watson turned him down a year ago and then going after Darnold. Then when Darnold fell on his face Tepper went back after Watson. The only way to save face for Tepper was to get Watson and not turn over a kings ransom to the Texans. Watson is going to hold back whatever team gets him in multiple ways, and his career will be much shorter than many think.

Can the Panthers announce they are removing their offer to the Texans? Then go get Armstead while the Saints wait for the Texans and Watson to work out their troubles.

Watson's camp announced it after the Texans closed up and went home for the day. I'm sure the Texans are not happy about him strong arming them and lowering their leverage to get more out of the Falcons. We'll see how the Texans-Watson struggle plays out today. It wouldn't surprise me if Watson's gamble backfires too and the entire thing falls apart with Matt Ryan staying in Atlanta. Texans opened up the Falcons for Watson to talk with in an effort to get the most compensation from the Panthers, Saints or Falcons. They didn't want the Panthers out. I hope it blows up in the Texans face and Ryan goes to the Colts or Titans while they get less in compensation from the Falcons since they have less leverage on them now. And yes, we are still waiting for a sign/report that the Panthers are removing their offer from the Texans and moving in a new direction (which I hope they do today). It would be really funny if Watson uses his NTC leverage to force his way to the Falcons and the Texans upset with Watson giving leverage to the Falcons refuse to trade with the Falcons forcing him to the Saints. Eventually, the Texans have to get tired of his antics. Texans have much less leverage now because of Watson, but they are the ones who got greedy and let him talk to the Falcons last minute.

Trade: Nick Foles, Brett Rypien, Shane Buechele Free Agent: Cam Newton, Joe Flacco Draft: Aqeel Glass, Jack Coan, Desmond Ridder Those are the only QBs I see capable of leading a team to a championship. Russell Wilson and Carson Wentz were also on my list as trade targets above Foles. You could get 3 of them on the roster and have them compete. It would be like the season the Packers loaded up on QBs Brett Favre, Ty Detmer, Mark Brunnell, and Kurt Warner. Packers traded for a 2nd round QB in Brett Favre, drafted Ty Detmer in the 9th round, drafted Mark Brunell in the 5th round, and signed an undrafted free agent in Kurt Warner. It is possible to find multiple hall of fame QBs and franchise QBs if you don't get blinded by 1st round QB hype and combine measurables.

We'll see. No deal is done, and this can all fall apart on the Falcons. Watson's camp is strong arming the Texans to deal exclusively with the Falcons. Effectively lowering what the Falcons would have to pay up with the Panthers out. Looks like the Texans opening that last minute door to let Watson talk to the Falcons blew up in their face. I would not be surprised to see some fighting between the Texans and Watson after this move. Watson went all in on the Falcons being able to trade Ryan. Let's see the Panthers move on to other QB options and free agent signing. That will tell me their offer is off the table. I want to see the Texans announce a Falcons trade or the Panthers pull their offer off the table (at least lower it). It's Tepper, so I doubt he stops at Watson not being open to a trade. Keep in mind that I do not want Watson.

I hope they don't get back in the race. I'll be happy when Watson is traded. Until then there is the chance Tepper does something dumb. Watson would have been a disappointment. Rather face him than Matt Ryan or any other playoff worthy QB. Now, here's hoping the Panthers dodge another bullet by not wasting their 1st round pick on the overhyped 2022 QB prospects.

Watson does not get to decide though. He will waive his NTC for the Falcons and Panthers. He is not sold on the Saints who have to keep trying to convince him he is close enough to home/family. This is the Texans decision. They were not even offering Watson the Falcons until they needed to leverage the Panthers hold on Watson. We all know Watson wants to be as close to home as possible and has a long relationship with the Falcons. Texans don't want Ryan in the AFC South. Falcons have to trade Ryan for the picks/players necessary to package with what they have in order to beat the Panthers offer. Falcons aren't going to get what they need from a Ryan trade imo. Dolphins and Browns are the only 2 teams I see in the AFC that the Falcons and Texans would agree on trading Ryan to for the picks the Texans want. Not going to happen. If the Panthers want Watson, CMC, Chinn, Burns, and Horn on the roster together, they have to wait. I believe the Texans would have already made the trade if the Panthers offered up 3 first rounders plus CMC and Burns.

Saints have been a pawn from the start. Watson is set on being close to home and wouldn't waive his NTC for them. That is why they wanted another meeting with Watson. Trying to convince him that he won't be away from family with the expectations of an NFL team on their QB.

And this is exactly what Tepper is good at... how he made his billions. It's like watching corporate raiding in the NFL without all the litigation.

Matt Ryan agreed to putting off his money? Does Matt Ryan know about this? Is this like how the Falcons told Ryan about their intent to go after Watson when they actually didn't? Is this even legal without Matt Ryan signing off? Something is not right about this. Call the bluff. We'll see come the end of day tomorrow. Just let it play out and watch the Texans and Falcons keep squirming through the weekend while they can't do anything big in free agency.

It's telling that the sources put out info about Watson deciding he can't decide after he decided on the Falcons while leaving off the Panthers as an option and saying the Falcons and Saints are leaders. Texans are too funny. Tepper must be sitting back watching this and laughing at the Texans amateur hour when it comes to negotiations and leverage. Kinda like how the league laughs at the Panthers amateur hour on roster building.

Either Watson is indecisive or the Texans are stirring the pot. Imminent. Can't decide. Waiving NTC. Needs more time to decide who to waive the NTC for. The leaks are always about Watson not making up his mind or all in on a team. Nothing about the Texans negotiations stalling or the Falcons not getting a definitive decision from the Texans. Sources in the Watson camp would not paint him like that. Bad narrative for Watson and his PR team is already trying to clean him up. These reporters need to stop listening to and running with their Texans sources. So, looks like the Falcons got used up by the Texans as leverage. Never saw that coming.

I'm sure they did not make this move without talking to Rodgers. Packers will be drafting WRs in a loaded WR draft.

I don't want Watson either, but that is who Tepper wants to bet the franchise on. Watson just wants to be close to home. The competitive nature I want in a franchise QB is not there. He would have opened up to the Seahawks, 49ers, and Eagles if he wanted to win it all. This would be like Tom Brady deciding between the Lions and Bears because he wanted to be closer to Michigan and telling the 49ers and Bucs he did not want to meet with them. You won't have to worry about his loyalty. He'll want to stay close to home. His loyalty to his family will keep him around.

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I'm sure the two of them playing together and being close to home is why Watson won't shut the door on the Panthers. I don't expect to hear anything from Cam meeting with other teams until this Watson saga closes. If Watson is not here, Cam won't be back. I believe Cam was a play they made last year when Darnold bombed to get Watson back in the door, and I fully expect Cam to be the back up if Watson is the starter for the Panthers.

If the Texans got what they wanted from the Panthers, the Falcons would have never been brought to the table to tease Watson and this deal would have been done before free agency opened. Panthers are still at the table. Their offer may not be the ask the Texans wanted, but it is still as good if not better than the Falcons and Saints for them to be sitting there and not saying a thing as the clock ticks down.

You don't have to impress Watson like a free agent. You just need to make sure he doesn't say no and scratch you off the list. The game is with the Texans and not Watson. Texans have the final say with all teams Watson did not say no to. If the Falcons had the best offer for the Texans, and the Texans were not worried about Ryan landing with the Titans or Colts, the deal would have been done weeks ago. Tepper is calling the Texans bluff, and not giving them their ask. Giving the Texans and Watson enough to sit at the table. For Watson it is likely Falcons, Panthers, and Saints in that order. For Texans it is likely Panthers, Saints, and Falcons in that order. Texans just need to take the Falcons off the table. I highly doubt the Falcons getting Watson is the best outcome for the Texans. Only one advantage for Texans that I see with keeping teasing Watson with the Falcons as an option. More from the Panthers. Tepper will stay with his offer and there will be no second meeting for anyone. Tepper wins with the Falcons being blown out of the water or getting Watson in a fair deal that favors the Panthers. This could end up with the Panthers getting Watson in a deal that favors the Panthers, the Falcons imploding, and Ryan going to the Titans or Colts. Very risky for the Texans wanting to be greedy.

When you have a hand like this... Do you need a 2nd meeting?

Watch as Mayfield becomes the Texans starting QB

I fire a Rhule out of my Tepper every morning. Not sure why a healthy organization would have trouble with that. Maybe it's a problem if that organization were backed up bad for years and had to soften up that Rhule first. You could really tear your Tepper and be in a lot of pain otherwise. Vegetables are the key to a happy and healthy Tepper.

How do you feel about your future QB wishing he were with the Falcons?

Well looks like the Falcons really screwed this one up lol They get to spend the next 24 hours convincing Matt Ryan not to force a trade or hold out after they have to give him his money.