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Need to replace the DC first before replacing anyone else. Evero should have been out before Hill
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Evero made the call to cut Hill?
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He didn't want to play for an Evero D
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OL giving up sacks to a 4 man rush. Pass blocking just bad on 3rd down
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Looks like Dalton doesn't trust any of his receivers today. He probably just wants to throw it to Coker after Johnson gave up with the Commanders DBs being physical
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If the receivers are messing up this bad and DBs are allowed to hold, Young better just run it
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Was trying to figure it out. Daltons reaction after he threw the ball told me a DB held Johnson after 5 yards and refs didn't call it. Not sure
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Johnson broke off his route? Looks like confusion out there for Dalton. That's a miscommunication. Was it on Johnson?
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DB pulled Johnson off his route?
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PI again
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Evero with his rare run blitz
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Washington knows Evero won't call a play to stop the run
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Evero with excellent game plan
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If you think Dalton is the one messing up, you don't know the calls and where he's suppose to put the ball. Nothing wrong with Dalton on the last 2 drives. Sanders and a PI. Ball was where it was suppose to be. Correct reads.
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That was PI
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Don't trust Sanders, Mingo or the TEs. Dalton needs to expect them to mess up
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That was on Sanders not knowing how to release. He turned the wrong way
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Miles Sanders was so lost on that 3rd down play
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Hubbard lost on that play. 3rd & long. Sanders no clue on quick pass. L
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What has Darnold done in the 4Q?
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Championship teams don't draft their QB in the top 20 picks unless they have already built a contender. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jared Goff, Blake Bortles, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, and Peyton Manning are the only 9 to make it to the championship level on a total rebuild over the past 15 seasons. 5 of them reached the SB, and all of them lost in those 15 years to Stafford, Brady, Manning and Brees. All QBs who beat these top 20 QBs were 30 or older with no less than 8 years of NFL experience when they won (average age of 36 with 14 years of experience). Brady was the only one drafted by his SB team. Peyton Manning (as the OUTLIER) is the only one of these college elite QBs to win a SB with the team that drafted him, and that was almost 20 years ago. And to no surprise, Manning had 8 seasons of experience at the age of 30 when he finally did it. Cam Newton lasted 8 seasons and was tossed at the age of 30. You could argue Cam Newton stepped into a roster with a winning foundation. Care to guess who was the next top 20 pick who won a SB for a fresh rebuild of a consistently losing team with a weak roster? You have to go back to the drafts in the 80s to find them. Aikman, Simms, and McMahon. The next ones are drafts with college players from the 60s in Griese, Bradshaw, and Namath. We all know these teams were built on defense and running. Not their QBs. These media hyped 1st round QBs with teams built around them coming into the NFL will need to last into their 30s to even have a shot at 1 SB championship. These teams with the shiny college QB will not have a chance at a dynasty with QB contracts today. How much clearer does this need to be? Build a defense and an OL with the draft. Only pay your 9 championship leaders. Target 28 to 30 year old QBs with leadership and clutch traits that they have proven with their NFL play. Make the younger QBs compete to prove they deserve a spot as the back up on the roster. Don't ever draft luxury picks like QBs and CBs in the top 20 picks if your roster has no playoff foundation to stand on. (Exception may be a pro sports pedigree QB like Mannings, Luck or Mahomes, but it's a decade long project.) There have only been 2 teams to build a dynasty around a QB from the bottom in this passing league since the 80s. Those young QBs came from the 3rd and 6th rounds. The other dynasties had winning rosters before they plugged in their young luxury pick QBs. (Cowboys 5 years with 2 coaches ended by a 2nd year expansion team does not make a dynasty.) Can we end this hope of a young media hyped 1st round QB to build or turn around a failing franchise? The media is selling you on a mythical unicorn. Do it right. The consistent championship teams from the past 15 years are not doing it without a defense or OL. They are doing it without drafting a top 20 QB.
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The front office banking on Clowney lasting half a season is the real disappointment
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Looks like Troy Hill was ready to hold his team accountable and a certain DC thought it would make the defense worse. I'm sure Troy Hill was the problem with the defense. Watch him go back to Brandon Staley with the 49ers now.
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Really Good Video Analysis of Andy Dalton vs Falcons
CPantherKing replied to Hoenheim's topic in Carolina Panthers
Some here have it wrong when based on hard numbers that determine a game. Here's a lengthy and deep analysis. Don't continue reading if you are not willing to look at the good and bad of your favorite players. The pass blocking was horrendous in the first half, and Dalton still kept the game competitive. Dalton was obviously directed to throw it to Thomas. Thomas ran his route horribly and didn't come back to the ball. The DB had an easy path to just race in front of Thomas. He's a TE who should be using his body to keep a DB from doing that. Lazy play by Thomas. The throw was good and it was the correct read (delivered 15 yards downfield with 3 to 5 yards to the sideline is where that ball was placed for Thomas). Here's how the drives went for the Falcons game. Drive 1: Ekwonu killed it. Drive 2: Heavy Dalton passing (Johnson & Moore). TD Drive 3: Dalton short passing (J.Sanders & XL). Punt Drive 4: Heavy Hubbard touches. FG Drive 5: Hubbard/M.Sanders touches. Punt (Running game failed and forced Dalton into 2 long passing downs. Got a PI to keep drive alive on one.) Drive 6: Heavy Dalton passing (5 targeted receivers). TD Drive 7: Running & short passing game to open the 2nd half. FG (Hubbard, Mingo, M.Sanders, J.Sanders, Thomas) OL ended the drive with a 2nd and 19. This is the ONLY drive the Panthers had for 3Q. Defensive failure Drive 8: Heavy Hubbard touches with TE targets. INT (Ian Thomas gave up INT with a lazy route and zero awareness of using his body to keep the DB from easily crossing his body. The play was called for Thomas and the play worked perfectly with him cutting through the zone to a wide open pocket. All Thomas had to do was get his body in between the trailing defender and the ball while staying on a line to the sideline. Thomas rounded his break and drifted to 18 yards deep at the end of his route. Gave the advantage to the speed of the trail defender. Pass was on point for a 15 yard crossing route. Play call was good. Receiver execution of a dig route was awful). The defense and Thomas in the 2nd half ended the game. Scoring % is 50% after this INT. That's still good for an offense. [Down 15 points with 5 minutes left. Running game has produced 6 points in 5 of 8 drives lasting 3 to 5 minutes per drive. Dalton has been successful on 2 of the 3 drives he was called on with the 1 failed drive stopped with bad pass blocking and relying on a TE.] Drive 9: All pass with defense protecting a lead. OL pass blocking fails again putting Dalton into a 2nd and 20. Dalton gets it to a 4th & 4 and throws incomplete with Ekwonu (one on one) thrown into him in 2 seconds forcing a high throw. (Canales, Dalton and Johnson were on point for a likely 1st down. Ekwonu pass blocking failed.) Turnover on downs. Drive 10: 2 minutes to go down 18 points. All pass. INT (Dalton didn't anticipate the CB jumping the route after reading a deep zone) The defense only stopped 2 drives from scoring. The OL lacks discipline and is a liability with their pass blocking. No one can excuse Ekwonu for what he does in pass blocking. It continues to cost the Panthers late in games, and on critical 4th down pass plays. The OL is very good at run blocking, but the RBs are not as good as fans want to believe. They are not playmakers to open up a game with a strong run blocking OL. The RBs are only good enough for controlling clock with a lead (and that needs to be more consistent). Too many missed opportunities from the RBs behind this OL. The TEs and Mingo are liabilities in the passing game. Their mistakes plus the lack of discipline on the OL is leading to way too many 3rd & longs. 7 of 12 3rd downs were long. 4 of the 7 were 3rd & 10+. The most efficient part of the team against the Falcons was Dalton, Johnson, Coker and Canales' play calling. XL is close to being in this group. Negative plays that resulted in 3rd & longs, failed 4th downs, INTs, and fumbles lost : Hubbard 3; Ekwonu 4; Thomas 2; J.Sanders 1; M.Sanders 1; Lewis 1; Nijman 1; Dalton 1. 1st downs/TDs converted: Rushing: Hubbard 6; M.Sanders 1; Dalton 1. Passing: Dalton 13 (Johnson 6; M.Sanders 1; Coker 2; J.Sanders 1; Legette 2; Hubbard 1). Top 3 liabilities: 1. Ekwonu 2. Hubbard 3. Thomas. Top 3 strengths: 1. Dalton 2. Hubbard 3. Johnson Anyone with a 1 doesn’t make a list. The goal is to have ZERO players on the liability list and 3 or more players on the strengths list. Then you want the opposite for the opponent to gauge the defense. Only 1 player of the Falcons made the liability list (Algiers with back to back runs for 0 yards on the 10th drive (final) of the game). Not a single Falcons OL with more than 1 critical mistake. Falcons only had 2 legit 3rd and longs all game (4 if you add the final plays of the game for them with the kneel downs). The Falcons converted 25 times in 9 drives. That makes them look better than the 5-0 Chiefs offense. Panthers' conversions by week: 1. 11; 2. 7; 3. 24; 4. 24; 5. 14; 6. 21. Dalton has been the key factor in the offense consistently converting 20+. The Bears game was planned around Hubbard carrying it to keep the Panthers defense off the field, and that failed. That is the only game Dalton has started that there hasn't been a single drive over 4 minutes in the 1st half (Dalton targeted 2 WRs on 2 passes until the 2 minute warning against the Bears). Realize the pass blocking OL and their discipline is a liability. The RBs lack of consistency is a liability. The TEs are a huge problem. The Panthers need a 3rd down back desperately, and Mingo should be converted to that role for now. The run blocking OL is carrying average RBs. Dalton is good enough to win and has done well playing through poor pass blocking. The receivers outside of Mingo are executing well. Canales is getting receivers open and calling plays to beat the defense. That's the state of the offense. Good enough to win, but not on at a level to put up 40 points per game. The offense has to worry about keeping up with their defense rather than simply executing to be good and win games at the end. List Dalton's critical mistakes that have ended a drive. Ekwonu, Mingo & Thomas are responsible for 3 of his 4 interceptions. His 3rd or 4th and short passes have failed how many times without being impacted by a terrible block or dropped pass? 45 drives to look at. I've already told you 3 that are not on Dalton. 10 resulted in TDs & 3 were end of game/half. That leaves 29 drives. Go see how they ended, and who's responsible. I already know, and I don't think some of you are willing to acknowledge who the drive killers are on the offense. It's not Dalton leading the way. Tough truths. -
Panthers Draft Pick Status (Week 7)
CPantherKing replied to Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D.'s topic in Carolina Panthers
Trade down to get 10 to 12 picks. Draft heavy defense.