CPantherKing

Will they stop talking about project QBs as they are franchise first rounders? There are actual franchise players in the first round. Nope. Just keep talking about the future QB busts.

Smitty has been spending a lot of time with Devin Lloyd... https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-draft-prospect-devin-lloyd-turned-to-leadership-skills-as-utah-grappled Devin Lloyd. There are a few players in this draft that if you pass on, you'll be kicking yourself. Watch the video. Panthers have been keeping quiet on this and making it look like they are all in on QB or OT. Smokescreen 1 yr LB signings, not keeping Jermaine Carter Jr, and holding onto a LB on the roster with legal situations he will be cut for tell you the one position the Panthers have been cloak and dagger about. The draft is full of good OLs for several rounds. The QB potential is deep in this draft. Possible franchise QBs are not showing up this year in the 1st round. There are only 2 LBs that can be a franchise defensive leader, and only 1 of them fits Snow's 33 with several teams positioning to trade up in the 1st round for Lloyd. If you haven't followed Smitty on Lloyd, you should watch it.

Devin Lloyd Panthers have addressed their OL in free agency. OL can be addressed in several rounds with many quality OL who could start in the NFL. Later round QBs are better than expected and early round QBs are worse than hoped. LB position outside of Shaq Thompson is weak and last I looked you need 3 LBs. The Panthers have decent LB depth with some issues in free agency LB signings. Securing a 5 year leader at LB who can play a versatile role in Snow's 33 is the most valuable move at the 6th pick. I expect several teams to try to jump the Seahawks to draft Lloyd, and Carolina would want to keep this very quiet with the likes of the Chiefs, Eagles, Seahawks, Packers, and Giants aiming for Lloyd.

Meet the next Saints QB, Aqeel Glass. Jack Coan is another QB who will go late in the draft. Not surprised if both Glass (7 game winning drives) and Coan (4 game winning drives) turn out better in the NFL level than any of the QBs picked ahead of them. Proven under pressure. More than you can say for any of the top QBs outside of Ridder.

I'm sure Darnold would have been able to get and maintain the lead for 3 quarters while leading the 49ers to victory against the Rams, Packers, and Bengals in the 4th quarter or OT after the 49ers defense imploded late in those games. Darnold could have made all those plays to get the 49ers into the playoffs and one game away from the SB. Sam Darnold doesn't need to prove he can do what Garoppolo has done because Rhule and company know he can while the rest of us just can't see it. Darnold is obviously a playoff and SB QB. The team is just holding him back. No, not really. He's Sam Darnold at the end of his rookie contract with no success to speak of in the NFL.

Zappe and Howell, you are the winners of career backup with the transition to future NFL coach. CONGRATULATIONS!

Devin Lloyd He will be a top 10 pick. Many teams are hoping he falls to the late first round, but there are a few teams positioning to trade up for him. Panthers, Eagles, Saints, Seahawks, Chiefs, and Packers. Expect the Saints, Eagles, and Packers to try to trade up for the Panthers pick to jump the Seahawks for Devin Lloyd. Panthers may decide Devin Lloyd is the defensive game changer they need. He is the perfect centerpiece for Snow's 33 defense.

Take GWD or 4Q comeback and add them to losses. These are all possible opportunities/losses for a QB. Divide GWD or 4QC by possible losses. This separates the game managers from game winning QBs, and consistently translates from college to the NFL. Garropolo is 10 GWD / 10 4QC / 14 L ; 41.7% GWD / 41.7% 4QC For comparison, Rodgers at 30 had 10 GWD/ 6 4QC / 29 L ; 25.6% GWD / 17.1% 4QC

If you had a shot at a QB who has proven he can come up clutch against the Rams, Bengals, and Packers, would you want that QB leading your team? If Darnold or Bridgewater could do what Jimmy G did to the Rams, Bengals, and Packers after the defense implodes, there is no QB discussion and we'd be talking about how the Panthers have found their franchise QB.

I think people are confusing flashy with clutch. How many QBs have bailed their team out more than 42% of the time when trailing in the 4th quarter? I will let you dig. You'll find out Jimmy G is #1. There are only 6 starting QBs in the NFL who have more playoff game winning drives than Jimmy G. Jimmy G is far from flashy, but give him the respect of being the #1 active clutch QB in the NFL. It's not Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

I'd take Garoppolo, Foles, and Flacco to fill the QB room. Ride out the years and be patient to grab that twice in a decade rookie QB. That would be the smart move. That is a SB worthy QB room. I'd also expect many fans to cry over that QB room just like they would have cried over a Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner, and Brad Johnson QB room 15 years ago. They would rather have Willis, Mariota, and Minshew in the QB room. I'd recommend they go to Vegas and play craps with their life savings.

Tepper is an expert at bankrupting companies and profiting off of their debt. You expected him to know how to build a successful organization based on winning?

How not to build a championship team by Rhule and Fitterer Buy your tickets now!

Garoppolo is better than any QB the Panthers have had and you all keep on trashing him like you have Peyton Manning available with the #6 pick. Garoppolo has been to 5 conference championships and 3 SBs with 2 different teams. The 49ers defense and coaching staff have only been able to win with one QB - they've started 5 QBs. That coaching staff and defense are a .500 team without Garoppolo. If this were pre Tommy John Jake Delhomme coming off his 2005 loss to the Seahawks at the age of 30, would you be calling him garbage and wanting him replaced with Darnold or a project rookie? Would you upgrade if that 2005 Delhomme were to hit the market? Is he the best? No. Is he good enough and better than most? Yes. Jimmy G is the best non-draft option available, and tied with a rookie for the #3 option with 2 rookies ahead of him. The only problem is drafting one of those rookies and going with Jimmy G would likely keep Rhule around longer.

Penning was just mauling anyone he could get to. He did not respect the teams running lanes or the QBs pocket. He struggled to even move to his proper blocking assignment. This is much worse than the penalty issue. He is a wrecking ball for both the offense and the defense. The OL most likely to put your QB on the IR by throwing a speed rusher that beats him into the QBs knees.

I feel the Saints will double up on WR with their first 2 picks. They will bring in a mid-round QB they think highly of and believe will out compete Winston over the next 2 seasons. Dalton is there to groom the rookie QB. Book will be cut if they bring in the QB they have been talking to since February.

Ridder: 9 game winning drives and 6 losses. Took a mediocre team and coach and turned the program around in game 1 as a freshman before they even had a defense worth talking about. That defense took shape under Ridder's leadership in his Junior year. When a college QB's GWD>L you better take notice. This is not typical and you can go 5+ years before you see another one. This draft has 3 QBs that are tested and proven as game winners/leaders. They will translate to the NFL. The last draft with multiple QBs like this was 2012. Ridder is my #2 of the 3. Tom Brady had 8GWD and 5L at Michigan. No one listened to me then and dismissed Brady while the Panthers rode with Steve Beuerlein and Jeff Lewis. I wanted Steve Beuerlein, Tom Brady, and Dameyune Craig in 2000. Brady was the 5th QB I targeted in the draft as a franchise QB for the Panthers since 1995. I don't think the flash and cash crowd will ever stop putting QBs who can't cut it in the NFL at the top of the draft while ignoring the championship leader who has proven in college that he can make the in game decisions needed to win when it matters. Malik Willis has 1GWD and 6L. Pickett has 1GWD and 5L in the last 2 seasons (6GWD and 20L in 4 seasons). Sam Howell has 1GWD and 11L in the last 2 seasons (3GWD and 17L in 3 seasons). This level of production is bad in the NFL. It is horrible in college. QBs do not go from non-clutch 20% in college to clutch 40% in the NFL.

Garoppolo is not my pick to be the starter for the Panthers, but he is not as bad as people make him out to be. The 49ers were 31-14 with Jimmy G. If you were to remove Jimmy G's game winning drives, the 49ers would have been 22-23. That is a significant impact. If Mayfield were the QB over this period of time for the 49ers, I would project the 49ers to have a 28-16 record not go to SB 54, not beat the Rams to get into the playoffs, and not beat the Packers to get to the NFC Championship. Garoppolo converts 42% of his teams possible losses into wins. In comparison, Mayfield comes in at 19%, Watson comes in at 28%, Stafford comes in at 30%, Brady comes in at 42%, and Mahomes comes in at 43%. This is a measure of how effective a QB is at winning a game when the defense can't carry the game and the offense/coaching has failed to execute going into the 4th quarter. From a Panthers perspective, Cam Newton is 22%, Jake Delhomme was 38%, and Sam Darnold is 11%. Without diving into the complete model I use to measure a QB, this is the statistical foundation of what defines a successful QB in the NFL. I will say this Garoppolo > Newton > Mayfield > Darnold. I project 3 QBs from the draft to be as good or better than Garoppolo. I believe none of those 3 QBs will be taken in the 1st round.

Robby is trying to get traded or be released. If you haven't figured that out by now, you haven't been paying attention to the offseason.

This is the truth. If I got what I wanted, the Panthers would have drafted Stefon Diggs, Cooper Kupp, Christian Kirk, Chris Conley, Hunter Renfrow, and Van Jefferson. Needless to say the Panthers would have never needed to sign Robby Anderson.

Richardson did not want Beane to leave. He was being considered to replace Hurney, but Richardson wanted him to be groomed some more. Hurney left with the expectation that Rivera would remain the HC and Beane would become GM. So, Gettleman was suppose to be the bridge to Beane. Wouldn't you know it, Gettleman spoke to the Bills and gave Beane a glowing recommendation. Bills hire Beane. Richardson learns what Gettleman did and fires Gettleman shortly after he pulled that stunt to get rid of his competition. So, with Beane gone thanks to Gettleman hoping he would have security with Beane out of the picture, Richardson went back to Hurney. Richardson was upset with losing Beane to the Bills. Gettleman blindsided Richardson. That is the real legacy of Gettlemagic. The Bills seem to be the only team to have been rewarded with success due to Gettleman's decisions. Better luck next time Panthers and Giants.

Desmond Ridder, Aqeel Glass, and Jack Coan. These are the QBs with the production that consistently transfer from college to NFL playoff success. Most seasons we are lucky to see one QB with this college production. 1998, 2012 and now 2022 are the only seasons that have had multiple QBs like this in the top 15 QB prospects. The others are backups and duds. Interested to see if Kaleb Eleby, EJ Perry, and Cole Kelley can land as NFL backups for the long haul.

Clarence Jones That 1999 offense was electric. Beuerlein had the time to put up yards with Muhammad, Jeffers, and Walls. They ran off of Clarence Jones effectively with any RB. Made Biakabatuka look superhuman until he got hurt again and again and again. Putting up 30 to 40 points game after game. That 1999 season tends to be forgotten because they came up short of the playoffs. Couldn't beat Washington, Lions, or Rams that year - the Rams miracle SB season. Defense let the Panthers down.

Why then have only 13 of the last 48 SB teams been able to break 30 points scored? Let me know when there are QBs putting up 30+ points on the regular in championship games. 2 of the last 3 QBs who won championship shootouts are not even starting in the NFL.

If you want the best defense in the NFL, you draft Devin Lloyd.