CPantherKing

Got it. I heard them say our 2 5ths and next years 5th for the Commies 4th when it was announced. Still see better value LBs on the board so I don't like it, but not as bad as I thought.

Same reaction from the Gettlemagic crowd when I blasted the Funchess pick/trade and listed getting Stefon Diggs, Devin Funchess/Chris Conley, and Darren Waller instead of just Funchess. Funchess is the only one no longer playing in the NFL.

If you could read I said INVESTED 3 picks in 1 player. Obviously you have to invest at least 1 pick into 1 player. Don't get anything back. You get 1 player.

Well he shouldn't be depth if you invest 3 picks in him. Could have gotten 3 LBs this year for depth. Jack Sanborn, Diego Fagot, and James Houston or one Brandon Smith? Smith needs to start in 2 seasons or this is a waste. Even worse than the Devin Funchess trade. At least Funchess started for a bit before he was flushed. Investing too much draft capital into individual players like Darnold, Corral, Marshall and Smith to even build a foundation. Horrible front office.

Did Will Grier have this...

This was a Tepper pick. Had little to nothing to do with the front office. Tepper has ties to Corral and wanted him as the franchise QB.

Athlete. YES Passer. YES Clutch. YES He doesn't show the leadership qualities to command a championship team. Easily antagonized and cocky. Not good at sitting and learning. Personality wise (using Panthers comps) he is a cross between Steve Smith, Rae Carruth, and Greg Hardy. Anger management issues, narcissistic, resistant to authority figures, highly competitive, dominant when winning, destructive when losing, and business/self-interest minded. He will succeed in a player led culture that allows for freedom of expression, lack of structure, and loose discipline. Bret Michaels management team and Corral's Mom control his image/PR. He is in a relationship with Raine Michaels Bret Michaels and David Tepper have a relationship going back to their days with the Steelers. This is a David Tepper pick. He will need a couple handlers early in his career.

Just another reason Matt Rhule should be fired. Is this the logic he surrounds himself with in hires, or is he just gaslighting everyone? The window for a QB to produce playoff/SB success is 2 to 5 years. 7+ years is the outlier/exception. Brady won a SB in his 2nd year. Wilson won his SB in his 2nd year. Mahomes won his SB in his 3rd year. Rodgers won his SB in his 5th year. Flacco 5. Foles 6. Eli 4. Roethlisberger 2. Peyton 9. Aikman 4. Rypien 4. Montana 3. Simms 8. McMahon 4. Theismann 10. Then you have QBs not drafted by their team and SB losing QBs. Favre 5, Warner(STL) 2, Delhomme 1, Stafford 1, Burrow 2, Newton 5, Kaepernick 2, Brady(TAM) 1, Warner(ARI) 4, Garoppolo 3, Goff 3, Ryan 9, McNabb 6, Grossman 4, Peyton(DEN) 2, Johnson 2, Gannon 4, Hasselbeck 5, Collins 2, Dilfer 1, McNair 5, Chandler 2, Bledsoe 4, O'Donnell 5, Humphries 3, Kelly 5, Elway 4, Williams 2, Woodley 3, Marino 2, Esiason 5. Draft a QB and give them 4 seasons. Sign a FA QB and give them 2 seasons. If you like a QB you draft and they show zero success in 4 seasons, part ways, take a shot at another QB for a few seasons, then go back and get the QB you drafted and give them 2 seasons to produce for a second chance (Fran Tarkenton/Nick Foles). Not difficult. History has proven this formula with these 3 QB scenarios. Rhule doesn't have a clue or a plan with a foundation under it.

Fitterer must be fun to play poker with. Bet he wonders why he loses all the time.

Two decade ago was the last time this happened in the NFL draft with 1 QB going in the 1st round a GOAT was born in the 6th round. Two decades before that the previous GOAT was born in the later part of the draft. The next GOAT at QB is coming from this draft!

Matt Corral's comp is Jim McMahon/Johnny Manziel

They want to use Sam as a bridge for Corral. Sam doesn't want to be used as a bridge and they told Sam he is the 1 and has a year to prove he can be the franchise QB. They have no intention of keeping Darnold. They just want to use him. Trying to keep Darnold from holding out and forcing a trade. Fitterer keeps messing up. Fitterer is hoping Darnold's agent or Darnold himself is not paying attention to the Fitterer slip ups on revealing their true intention. What are the chances Darnold or his agent is paying attention to these press conferences?

Matt is a very good QB. He hates authority though and put off teams in interviews. His off field issues will eventually surface. It's his durability and off field issues that will be a problem. Carolina convicts for sure. Now we have a LT who can't pass block well and a QB who is fragile and likes to run when under pressure. This doesn't look like it's going to be a good mix. There's always hope.

People don't get this. 40 SBs have been won by a QB who was drafted by that championship team. Four of those QBs led their teams to a dynasty. Brady with 6 trophies (pick 199), Montana (pick 82) with 4 trophies, Bradshaw (pick 1) with 4 trophies, and Aikman (pick 1) with 3 trophies. In the last 9 seasons, only 1 first round QB has won the SB for the team that drafted them. 3 QBs outside the first round have led their team that drafted them to 5 of those 9 SB championships. 5 of the 9 SB losers drafted their QBs in the 1st round. Goff, Newton, Ryan, Burrow, and Mahomes. Brady, Wilson, and Mahomes have been the only 3 QBs drafted by their team to show up in multiple SBs over the past decade. What can we learn from this? Drafting a QB to be your franchise QB gives you the best shot to win a SB, and not drafting that QB in the 1st round increases your chances at going to multiple SBs and cementing your franchise as an NFL dynasty. Facts.

Ouch. Falcons got Ridder. That's going to be trouble for a while. If the Saints draft Glass later and the Bucs draft Coan to develop under Brady, the Panthers will be bottom dwellers for a long time.

Draft position is meaningless for a QB. 1st rounders account for less than 50% of the best QBs in NFL history, the playoffs, and the SB.

He is pretty bad against average college edge rushers. Panthers drafted an NFL guard. No shot he goes toe to toe on 3rd down with NFL edge rushers week in and week out. He had a QB who got away and threw the ball away when Ekwonu consistently got beat against the pass. Couple that with the rest of the OL being worse against the pass rush and not having to face top edge rushers makes it easy to see why Ekwonu's sack total was not as bad as his pass blocking at LT. He will be moved to guard eventually. Christensen and Erving are better pass blockers unfortunately.

A rookie LT who doesn't pass block well against NFL level edge rushers would qualify as an excuse.

Sounds like a trade coming

Breeze over the Panthers with a commercial and start talking about Giants again

I'm 3 for 3 too... lol Have the same top 5 as Charlie though. We'll see who gets #6 right

The Jaguars are only the 6th team to really really suck in NFL history!!! Do I hear a chant for a 3peat?

It'd be awesome if they announced a Darren Waller trade with him on stage

Rhule and Fitterer practicing their mock drafts? LOL. You don't have a day 2 pick. You got Sam Darnold.