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Let's do the unthinkable: 1-Young 2-McKee 3-Penix 4-McCall 5-Ward 6-Nix 7-Tune Battle royale in training camp

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Mid-round TE: Luke Schoonmaker 6'6 250 Michigan Willing & reliable block combined with receiving skills as a huge, long, target. Gronk sized. Hasn't been used a lot but has a ton of potential.

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Between this and not getting proper representation for his contract negotiations, Jackson seems to make a lot of really head scratcher moves off the field.

That's a good one to throw out. Definitely agree. He's relentless and is good with his counter moves, just doesn't stop. Has a knack for shedding blockers even if they get position on him. Ton of potential, he's that type that can probably play 3, 5, and 7 tech and become an every down type. Great size and frame.

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Oh I definitely see him transferring. He has 2 options: Pac-12 to get bonkers awesome inflated stats to hype himself up for the draft or SEC for a legacy run at a title.

It's all relative--I think two of the better prospects that could be that fringe 1st range are returning to school in Ward & Daniels. Penix as mentioned is a bit of a mystery from what I've gathered even considering the year he's had. You have to weigh the risk/reward. If this is the scenario, it means we're getting another non-QB at the top of the draft. The roster is going to start filling out, top talent year after year in Burns, Brown, Chinn, Horn, Ekwonu, and with this a new playmaker..so you have to just take those gambles at a certain point. I'd rather ensure we get our favorite this time, especially for a fresh new HC and not hand him a leftover to pair with another leftover in Corral. I'm taking a late 1st investment with big upside over just waiting for whoever is left come mid-R2 (if this scenario shakes out position wise).

Pretty much. The fact he is the best QB on the team means absolutely nothing for our future. Other than maybe winning the clipboard battle under whoever we grab next to launch onto this carousel of crazy. He's had good games before.. Panthers & Jets fans all know what he is in the bigger scheme of things. Nothing is changing. Seems to have had some nice throws yesterday, I'll give him that. But let's be real, other than acknowledging that, what's really the point here? (rhetorical)

I'll check it out when I can. Haven't been watching our games

Okay then chap ha.

Darrel Bevell was a name that kept getting brought up for Wilks as a OC when he took the AZ job and he interviewed. Where's he at these days? Tua's QB coach and the Dolphins passing game coordinator

Fair points. I'm not a Levis fan as of now but am prepping for the possibility and looking for the silver lining. And the Day 2 QB situation you speak of almost always includes a gap with a few outliers like Hurts and Brees. What I'm hoping to show is that teams tend to target a guy and will move up to grab him from the mid to late 1st. That's just what happens. If every team passes on a guy in R1 at the most important position, that will also get a 5th year option, it almost always means they pass on them in Round 2 as well. The QB picks then tend to pick back up in R3. Allen, Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Love, Bridgewater, Flacco, Cutler, all trade ups. The ones that don't work out like Kyle Boller, JP Losman, Josh Freeman, they'll happen to. It's so easy to just say "trade down, grab a guy round 2" but it's just not how it typically happens. Not saying that's what your getting at, but it's something so easy to say, yet something that rarely works out or happens. No one in their right mind thought Hurts was going to be this type of slayer. To your point, how does the Late 1st crowd stack up against the Day-2ers in this group, especially if it's being overvalued? How do Richardson, McKee compare to a Penix, Hall, Tune, etc.? I'm unsure at this point, leaning a bit more on the McKee/Richardson train though.

We could be in 1st in the NFCS by week 15 hehe

Cool. I'm not unwavering in any direction, would be down for you to show those but he's not and will not be the answer. At best, maybe he could get stick on as a backup here. I don't hate the dude, he's just not an NFL starter.

I personally have 1 alternate scenario if it's not Bryce/Stroud. Before that, there's a clear chance of needing to accept it could very well be Levis and rooting for that to work out. We'll likely be right in the range (if things hold where they are today) But my one alternate: Jordan Addison at pick 8-10ish, Trade up into R1 for Richardson or McKee. R2 QB scenarios work out rarely (Hurts, Brees); best trade up and get the 5th year for the most important position. Addison (and maybe Quentin) are the types that will totally change an offense. Would love to have ourselves a Hill/Waddle type setup for a young buck.

Yup. Darnold can produce on an offense and manage when all is perfect, but he has no anticipation & doesn't create with his throws at all. Throws to open, doesn't throw a guy open. Big thing that separastes the good from ze bad.

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The Colts are 4-6-1 and are slotted at pick 14 right now, and get the Cowboys next week. Next week with us on a bye: 5-7 Falcons v. 3-7 Steelers 4-8 Packers v. 3-9 Bears 4-7 Jaguars v. 4-7 Lions 4-8 Saints v. 5-6 Bucs If we somehow pull out a win in Seattle, we may just need to accept we're not going to be a top-5 pick.

This wouldn’t be my strategy but Addison is the one guy in this draft, if we’re there, and Young and Stroud are taken, I’d just take JA. He is of the Diggs meets G Wilson mold. His game is just so translatable, he does everything. Monster. The one guy I’m absolutely sure on. He’s done it in 2 different college offenses and proved to be the best in the country at it. Get him to pair with Moore and figure QB out in a trade up or what have you. He’d be that level of a bump up offensively in my view no matter the QB. and then maybe try to trade up to the back of the first for Richardson or McKee. I dunno

This is an example of what I mean. Brugler who is very much in tune with a handful of FOs and different insiders speaks so cautiously of Penix. His notable sections are about how he wasn’t considered draftable before this season, has a long delivery and is a strider. There is clearly pause in the eval community, still though I think he’s looked great. https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/is-michael-penix-jr-as-good-as-gone-assessing-the-star-husky-qbs-looming-nfl-draft-decision/

This would have been a record milquetoast latte reaction.

I'm mentally preparing for a few head scratchers this offseason. We've been getting used to them, they will likely continue.