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The pushback against McCall in here is a bit too far but his arm leaves a lot to be desired. If he had legit credentials, his name would be buzzing in the scouting world with these stats he’s putting out and he simply isn’t generating the hype. He’s a pretty typical modern mid-rounder a la James Morgan or Minshew. Sometimes they can produce, most of the time they don’t. That’s really all there is to it.
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I like that dude. Really missed out on a legit GM. And McD. And Allen. And life in general. Love.
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With Flacco, Stafford, Rodgers and Brady (3 SB winners) all near retirement, Wilson, Mahomes, and Foles are about to be the only active QB with a SB win. Essentially 2 active starters w/SBs, one has clearly hit an age wall. So unless KC or DEN start winning every year, there's going to be 1st timers floating around. So who are they? Because it's looking pretty baren in the NFC. The AFC? Sure, you've got Allen, Mahomes, Jackson, Tua, Burrow, Herbert could be the ones gunning fora ring. The NFC? Dak? Cousins? Murray? Hurts? Those are our baselines. If we can find a guy that's at least a Dak, we could be a great shape these next 6-8 years. The NFC is about to get crazy interesting. Recent high picks are looking like busts, I mean, Geno is the current cream rising to the top. It's wild. So, I think we can find someone in this class. They don't need to be Montana.
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Anderson got bullied against A&M and TEN. Was also quiet to start the year. If we're going to nitpick the QB performances, we should really be paying attention to how inconsistent he's been this year. And isn't he like 6'4 240?
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Quinten Johnston in the 1st, then Max Duggan in the 2nd.
saX man replied to UpstatePantherfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
The very first throw (and third) show his consistent big issue--sailing the short and intermediates. His accuracy on quick throws can be a bit erratic which is probably why whispers aren't being made about him being a R1 talent. You have to nail that stuff down pat as a QB going into the NFL. Though that throw at the :20 mark..wow. And he does well at extending plays and working with his guy post-route. He's a R2-4ish type imho. Better than Duggan though. edit--Reminds me of how people were looking at James Morgan in his draft some years back. Checks out on paper, great measurables, a bit of that QB gene, great numbers, but you need that extra kick of something that shows you have a high ceiling to warrant a high pick. He's just kind of like a lot of these mid rounders we've seen. -
Quinten Johnston in the 1st, then Max Duggan in the 2nd.
saX man replied to UpstatePantherfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
This strange Duggan hype train is strange. Love me some of these receivers (Hyatt, Addison, QJ, Marv Jr) but we can find better than Duggan. If you're pushing for this WR/DE first, QB next strategy, do better than Duggan. Pls. Thx. -
QB for obvious reasons. Ideal choice: Bryce Young Alabama WR is a need regardless of how Marshall looks. You simply need playmakers to get to the next level. Ideal Choice: Jordan Addison USC A DL that can play 1, 3, and 5 tech to compliment Brown & Burns. YGM has this potential but is showing to be more of a role player/backup type. Ideal choice: Tyree Wilson Texas Tech M/OLB (after we let Shaq go) A balanced TE, I don't mind that Iowa kid Sam LaPorta And then just collect more linemen...
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Seriously. Usually the bad names even start sounding fine but it's just awkward.
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...annnnnnnd officially under federal investigation
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It's the Horncats model
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While wearing a DSOTM shirt too. I mean, that's good taste lol
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Same. Finally took a minute to check him out since people are chattering about--his play makes the field seem really big. For me it seems to be a combination of choppy footwork and his throwing mechanics. And on top of it, overall, you're not getting any major upside/a high ceiling from him. The ball doesn't travel with consistent velocity which seems to result in mid-range accuracy issues. For a guy without any major upside, he still has a lot to work on. The team is rolling, but he's no more than a mid-late rounder from at least what I saw. He's not cracking the top-8ish in QBs therefore will remain off ze radar.
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Quinten and Addison are straight up stars. Harrison will be as well. And Smith-Nj should have a pretty smooth transition. And Hyatt/Tillman in TEN look great. Honestly, we could find a great potential 1-2 QB-WR in this draft if the cards fall correctly. But no to any other spot than QB high.
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Oh flub, I'm going by season not actual year. Compared to 21', I think it would depend on teams but Fields and Young would be between Lawrence and Jones, order of that #2-5 would vary.
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I don't know about that... 2021 was what? Willis, Pickett and Corral who all had pretty shaky performances throughout the year. And then people were convincing themselves Howell and Strong were the other tops, who scouts apparently had pegged as R4 and below. Pickett was the only one consistently producing offense, but there were notable flags. Many went into the year thinking Corral & Strong were the guys and it turned out to be really no one, minus Pickett sorta who came out of nowhere and was a late-1st. This year---Stroud and Bryce have been either at their expected level or exceeding it as Round 1 prospects. And then yep, Hooker has bloomed out of nowhere. Penix would be the other to watch, who honestly, is kind of where I start to feel this class gets to that Willis/Corral/Ridder level, but I think he's still better. The true deflated feeling many have in this current class is Richardson, Levis and Van Dyke not living up to expectations so far. Those guys have the measurables, no injury history, less physical questions, and overall ceiling but have not followed through on the field yet. More season to be played but if we're comparing to 2021, the likes of McCall & Jaren Hall is where this class gets to the Willis/Corral/Ridder level.
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Pretty much. Top of the draft includes teams that are typically at the top and don't pick the right guys (Jags, Jets, Texans, becoming us these days) and many of the better QBs slip to the consistently better teams in their off years. Buffalo traded up for Allen, KC for Mahomes, BAL for Jackson. Those teams targeted their top guy and were fortunate to work out a deal to grab them. Other teams take a promising backup with potential while having a guy (I.E. Rozeman grabbing Hurts after paying Wentz) 2020 was a good draft. And funny thing is I swear the common banter around these parts was that Burrow was a bust/one year wonder with small hands, Herbert couldn't lead, and Tua was going to be too affected by his injury. Russ, Rodgers, Cousins and Dak are about the only recent decent talented QBs who genuinely "fell" to their teams. We're also about to hit a major QB drought after this season when Brady, Rodgers, & maybe Stafford all retire. Best to start swinging and take our chance.
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He's also an animal off the field. That dude slays the Chicago West Loop white-young professional 20 somethings lol.
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We pick where we pick. Just hope we pick the right guy.
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I never really bothered until Folklore came out which is an excellent album. It's as much of a Bon Iver and The National album as a T-Swift one. And her mingling with that crowd in shows she's a musician and not just a pop star. Her songwriting is honestly top notch.
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How dare you mother f*cker
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Lol. I love the very expected "Trade down yet we get our guy" mentality which no GM actually positions. Teams trade down when they don't think there's anyone helpful compared to the value they receive in comp. A team could trade back into the first if a guy slips far enough (see: Bal/Lamar). And expect the mocks that will take a "generational" talent with our 1st (that's not actually generational) and then pick a QB in the 2nd that they're stanning for that turns out to be a 4th-6th rounder. I just highly doubt we do anything other than (a) pick our QB with our first or (b) trade up for the one we want
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If you're never willing to take a chance, even in what is I'd call an average year, not a poor class (for that, re: last year, 2015, 2010, 2002), then you'll never find a QB. There's high upside talent in this class that are indeed risks, but they could pay off and we could have our guy. Hooker, Levis, Richardson, Penix, all could be possibilities. You gotta take the chance if you think one of them has the chance to be great. And you know, it really falls on this scouting dept and Scott if they think one of them fits the bill. There's also a fair amount of CFB left to shake out. Let's see how we're feeling in a month or so.
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Same story every season. The current class isn't good, the NEXT one though, oh man. It's awesome. Next one comes, rinse repeat.
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My revised weekly thoughts: Tier 1 - Top Prospects (High R1) A. Bryce Young B. CJ Stroud Tier 2A - High Risk & Reward (Really hard to order, Mid R1 to R3) Hendon Hooker - There comes a point where you do have to consider what he's doing, even with those TEN wideouts and lack of NFL scheming. Age 25 y/0 rookie Will Levis - his arm is elite, but his abilities seem to disappear in games whether it be coaching (or is it him?) Hard to tell, still waiting to really see IT with this kid. Problem is he's going to be 24 soon Michael Penix Jr. - Teetering between 2A/B for me. Big upside, the second half of season will make or break him on scout radars. Really like everything about him, has the downfield aggressive mentality, problem is WAS's line is ridiculous so want to see how he does against better schools. Oregon game will be big. Nix v. Penix. Tier 2B - Medium Risk/How really high is the the ceiling? (R3-5) Tanner McKee - Measures out, looks the part, acts the part..but in games? Davis Mills+ Grayson McCall - Like McKee, with everything laid out--stats, measurables, it seems he would be a commodity, but the lack of buzz is telling me scouts don't really view him super highly, likely for his fair accuracy & avg/slightly above avg arm combo Tier 3 - Developmental/Not there yet Cam Ward - Love him, but he needs to stay in school. Anthony Richardson - Talent is there, playmaking is there, can he progress enough or does he stay in school?