MasterAwesome

Yeah uhhh the people getting crucified on these boards for their opinion are not the ones who are pissed at everything lol. I dunno why the pissed off super majority constantly have this victim complex like they're some kind of marginalized oppressed group.

Wow, you are so brave. You can tell which Huddlers are posturing about how done they are with the team (hint: the ones who are in here 5-6 hours a day making hundreds of posts about how "done" they are). Lol ok.

Holding a grudge against Fields? Don’t take it so personally bro. The irony that I’m highlighting is that one QB is the worst in the NFL and the other is a rookie sensation but statistically you’d have a tough time distinguishing one from the other. I’m making fun of y’all, not Fields. But you’ve proven my point.

Andy Dalton with one of those stat lines that if it was Justin Fields, Huddlers would be salivating at his potential. 7 sacks, 1 TD, 2 INTs, including a pick-six…*droolllll*

"Willing to listen to trade offers" does not mean they are actively trying to trade him for peanuts. I'd be disappointed if we weren't "willing to listen to trade offers" for every single player on our team. There's absolutely zero harm in fielding offers. "Oh you're offering a 5th round pick for CMC" Click It's a pretty basic Cost-Benefit analysis.

Lol I think we're talking past each other. I'm trying to say that I don't care about the tweet itself (or who made it), or the graphic. I was just concerned solely with the scores used in the tweet/graphic, which I think we both agree are coming from PFF's grading system. I just saw your "Best and Worst PFF from Sunday" thread and even in there, the article mentions Christensen's 77.3 pass blocking grade so I think it's clear that the grades in the tweet are coming from PFF themselves. I agree with your second point though, that PFF just modified their original grading after reviewing the tape.

This is what people don't seem to understand. Anyone witnessing our terrible offense over the last few weeks and thinking that somehow vindicates Joe Brady, is being incredibly naive.

This is still largely Joe Brady's offense...anyone expecting our offense to have been completely revamped in a span of a week or two late in the season just because our OC got fired, had irrationally unrealistic expectations. It takes at least an entire offseason to install a new playbook/offense. Nixon only gets to decide which plays to run from the same flawed playbook and so far admittedly has done a poor job of it.

Yeah I figured it was more of an instant analysis, but again it was posted the following day, so they had actually taken some time before posting it. But I know that doesn't necessarily mean that they went back and reviewed the tape during that delay. I'm not sure which tweet you're referencing in the OP - Darin Gantt's? If so, I'm not talking about that tweet at all - I'm only talking about the scores above it, which seem like they were taken directly from PFF (even has the PFF logo on the right side of the image).

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-17-game-recap-new-orleans-saints-18-carolina-panthers-10 Yet in a different article, PFF specifically calls out Christensen as struggling in pass protection and giving up the most pressures (6). I'm guessing they reviewed the tape and revised some things between the time this article was posted and the snapshot in the OP, but they were both posted on the same day (yesterday) so it still seems kinda odd to have drastically changed their opinion.

Sounds like he just wanted a reason to plug some of his old articles. This gives me vibes of social media "influencers" who start their videos with "So...lots of my subscribers have been asking me about my daily fitness routine. So here's a video of me doing a bunch of workouts shirtless" or w/e.

Brady sucked…just because the interim guy we replaced him with sucks even more, doesn’t change that. And if you’re gonna excuse some of Cam’s performance issues because he was still learning the playbook, then maybe we should do the same for the Running Backs coach who just inherited an entire playbook that he had no hand in creating. Like Brady, I think Nixon is in over his head.

When Payton beats a divisional opponent, he's the godliest coach of all time. When Payton loses to a divisional opponent, he's a genius who did so deliberately just to sabotage a rival's draft position. You guys are too funny.

He’s like a more athletic Brenton Bersin…but without the unwarranted hate of doing nothing but catching every pass that’s thrown to him.

Isn’t it a little counterintuitive to talk about building around an o-line and then willing to trade away our only good one?

Did they ever confirm Cam starting at QB today? I’m going to the game and I ain’t trying to suffer through Darnold or PJ.

I think Rhule's reluctance to play Christensen simply because of his arm length is dumb, but let's at least be factual about his measurements. I fixed it for you.

That doesn't really explain your logic that Darnold was expected to succeed in spite of a bad o-line and a green OC whereas Brady gets a pass due to similar circumstances. I mean I recall you posting some chart about how some of the top passing attacks actually have o-lines that rate very poorly in pass-blocking to suggest that a bad o-line is no excuse for Darnold not to perform and that passing games can often succeed with poor pass-blocking. But now you're using a poor o-line as an excuse for Brady? My point is that all of these things are codependent so I don't get the inconsistent application of certain elements of our offense. Darnold was obviously a hinderance to Brady's success, but I think it has become increasingly clear by this point that Brady was similarly a hinderance to Darnold's success.

The irony is that you're making the same argument that people were making in the offseason for why they're hopeful about Darnold maybe being able to show something with us. Set up to fail...young QB given horrible OL, receivers, coaching...etc. From everything I've seen from Brady, I suspect you take him now and plug him into a new system and he would fail as hard as Darnold has with his new team. For some reason you're awfully charitable to Brady. You fail to recognize that he is absolutely a big part of the problem. Offenses are synergistic: the same way Brady expectedly failed because he had to deal with horrible QBs and OLs....our QBs and OL expectedly failed because they had to deal with a green OC who was in over his head and never learned to adapt to anything.

I would buy the "inexperienced" angle if it seemed like Brady was making strides from Year 1 -> Year 2. Instead, his playcalling looks like it has gotten worse.

Yeah he developed a gameplan that was good enough to win. He did his job. Doesn't mean I'm in awe of his Madden-style spamming of run plays over and over in 50 mph winds when he has a dominant defense, special teams, and o-line to rely on. That's basically Rivera's dream gameplan there; the only difference is Rivera didn't have the personnel to pull it off. I think McDaniels is a good offensive coordinator, I just don't think last night's game elevates him to godlike status which I'm apparently in the minority about.

Were you that impressed by his ability to call 99% run plays tonight?

Well, just watched Minshew’s highlights from yesterday and I was very underwhelmed. I was only impressed by one throw - his very last one. Otherwise it was his receivers being wide open or making something out of dump-offs. You could argue his first TD to Goedert was a good throw but that thing hung in the air for about 5 minutes and seemed to be more a product of bad defense. If the safety was in better position, that would’ve been an easy pick or at least a punishing hit on Goedert. The second TD was wayyy underthrown to a wide open Goedert which seemed to be a pattern for Minshew.

Well that's what I was saying in my post that you quoted. We don't need to compare trading for Minshew vs. trading for Darnold. 1) Trading for Darnold was a big mistake 2) Minshew is not the answer to our QB problem Those aren't mutually exclusive. I'd be more on board with having traded for Minshew if we had a top rookie QB needing to sit for a year or a legit franchise starter with zero depth if he were to get injured. But just trading for Minshew just for the sake of having a marginal upgrade from Teddy would do nothing to get us out of our perpetual QB purgatory since the Cam injury. That's just another one of those half-ass measures we've been taking for the last 2-3 years.

I think we can also agree that those "durrr Sam Darnold is 99% of what's wrong with our offense" arguments were stupid. Fast forward to today, and we've just fired our offensive coordinator and are coming off the heels of one of the worst o-line performances in NFL history against Miami. Oh and our star WRs are still dropping passes.