MasterAwesome

Oh gosh I almost forgot - I read a post on Facebook that said they actually had to go back and reshoot a couple scenes in the draft room for the Panthers Confidential because they thought Fitterer looked too tough compared to Rhule. The director had to tell Fitterer to sulk his head a little more. Also read that the sound people had to lower Fitterer's audio/increase Rhule's audio in post, in order to make him seem more assertive and commanding in the video. Oh ALSO (from the same Facebook poster): they actually hired The Rock to step in as Rhule's body double in a couple scenes to make him look more alpha.

Really? That post? Interesting. I would definitely say more "condescending" as you correctly identified the first time, but as a bleeding heart liberal, I would never dare invalidate your feelings. Bottom line is that you were the one who got fed up and stormed off during that discussion, not me. If this was an Xbox Live Call of Duty lobby, you'd totally be pwning my n00b ass with this "U mad bro?" line. But I dunno I guess it doesn't really sting very much when you're a grown adult. Just feels kinda cringe bro.

Three! Sorry I'm late. Naw I actually don't know one way or the other nor does anyone else. I just think it's kind of silly and conspiratorial to point to something like your personal interpretation of someone's body language at a press conference as evidence that the power dynamic has shifted. A bit flimsy IMO. I would love the power dynamic to be shifted, but it's gonna take more than armchair body language psychology to convince me.

That was quite generous of Tepper to force Rhule to overhaul his entire coaching staff except for his closest buddy Phil Snow! But hold up, I once saw a press conference where David Tepper blinked in Morse Code: "Rhule is holding my daughter hostage. PLEASE HELP". And at that same press conference, Tepper's arm was bent at exactly an 85.1216 degree angle and if you replace each number with its corresponding letter(s) in the alphabet then you get the message "H-E-L-P". This thread has big "I do my own research!" energy.

On a scale from 1 to: , how mad would you say I am? Frank's salt is more than enough for my stew, I don't need yours thanks. Gotta watch my sodium levels!

Oh Franky, I'm so glad I have you to follow me around in threads to tell me how mad I am, otherwise I would just never know. My "stewing" + your saltiness, what a perfect pairing we make.

To actually be fair, he's not simply "losing it to Deshaun Watson" as if there was some training camp competition that Watson just happened to win out. They apparently found the idea of starting Baker Mayfield so objectionable that they instead made a conscious and informed decision to risk throwing 3 1st round picks and $230 million guaranteed to someone who was mired in so many legal issues that his status in the league was/is legitimately in jeopardy.

I'm hoping Brady's perceived lack of power is really just a product of his footwork/technique and that if those can be coached up, he won't get bulldozed so much. Poor footwork = poor balance = easier to get pushed around. He seems like an objectively strong dude if we go off of his benchpress (30 reps), which I know isn't a very reliable indicator of playing strength, but at least it's partially a measure of foundational strength. Although benching is also inherently easier with his adorable lil baby arms, so there's that too.

God forbid you dare mention the word "clickbait" in reference to the 27th vague obscure tweet about how an anonymous source heard from their anonymous source's anonymous source that there's possibly a chance that maybe we could perhaps consider trading for Baker sometime between today and 2027...cause that's toxic as hell and I won't stand for it!!!

Not as hot as Jimmy G or Matt Corral though, amirite?? Or is there room for all three in there?

Yeah the real story here IMO is that apparently Christensen looks really good. I guess I’m one of the few people happy about that. The lineup stuff is so fluid at this point in the off-season, so panicking about it is super premature. I swear, the same people losing their minds in here are also the same exact people who were convinced for months leading up to the draft that we were gonna draft Kenny Pickett at 6.

"Get that pathetic 25-year-old geriatric weak-a@# Brady Christensen OFF MUH TEAM!!"

I'd much prefer Icky at LT from the start but as long as the best 5 o-linemen are playing (and presumably Icky at LG in that scenario), I can live with that. Personally I think it's weird and counterproductive to dwell on last year rather than being excited by Christensen being called "one of the best players on the team" when he has largely been an afterthought this offseason, but to each their own I suppose.

A grassroots movement isn't going to change the culture in here. That needs to come from leadership.

Silly me, I clicked this thread thinking it was about how much Corral has been impressing in minicamp to where he's already picking up momentum as the frontrunner to start. But nope, just another Baker thread.

FTFY. If you think Brady was more the solution, that suggests he impressed you, so what did you find impressive about him? We had a huge problem with predictable playcalling and lack of adjustments; not exactly something we can blame Cam Erving for. I think to simply look at our offensive woes on paper and blame Joe Brady for them would be silly and reductive and unfair to him, but I have yet to see anyone do that. The criticisms of him are very pointed and nuanced within the confines of his role on the team. If an offensive coordinator needs a perfectly assembled roster to be successful and doesn't know how to (or won't even attempt to) scheme around his roster limitations, then he's just not very good at his job IMO. If a defensive coordinator had major holes in his defense but chose to spam Cover 2 like he's playing Madden on Rookie mode, even though his defense continues to get gashed over and over again by an offense who routinely finds soft spots in the zone for easy 12-yard completions, I wouldn't say "well ya know...poor guy just didn't have much to work with ". I'd be thinking "DUDE! Try blitzing! Try having your DBs play press! Try to disguise your coverage! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT". That's what watching a Joe Brady offense felt like.

Well he’s the QB Coach of a top 3 superstar QB in Josh Allen, that just might be the cushiest job in the NFL. He’s basically your little brother you give an unplugged PlayStation controller to and say “You’re doing a great job buddy!! Way to go!!!”. If he can’t finesse a halfway decent career out of this? Oof…then “oh wee mayne” as you crazy kids say. Meanwhile Rhule and his coaching staff are in all likelihood out of jobs by the end of the season. I think firing Brady may have actually ended up being the thing that salvaged his NFL career.

The difference is that the people stumping for Darnold in 2021 were blaming his o-line/coaching staff/receiving corps for his failures in NY and clinging onto hope that maybe if those improved, Darnold would improve and maximize his potential. Whereas with Baker, you can't really blame those things because he has had a VERY solid support system across the board in all three of those areas. So we basically know what Baker is, best case scenario, under peak conditions and it's pretty meh. I think pretty much everyone understands that Baker will not be getting peak conditions here lol.

Fatt Rh00L iz SuCK!! Gimme my damn pie!!!

Yeah same, he showed some flashes but was inconsistent (which I’d argue describes Henderson too). I think with Henderson’s athleticism and potential, that if the two of them are neck-and-neck leading up to Week 1, I think they’d be tempted to go with Henderson. So I’m giving him the slight nod over Taylor, but it’s close IMO. I’m just saying, that guy I responded to was like demanding sources from the other guy for simply saying Henderson could “potentially possibly be a starter” which is about the most non-committal take ever lol. I don’t know why calling Henderson a potential possible starter is some kind of preposterous claim.

Don’t worry, I think we all understand your point…it comes up literally every season by somebody. It’s not exactly a unique take. The problem is that no NFL team in reality operates with this kind of mindset. No team goes “well guys…we all know we’re gonna suck this year so we might as well save money, pack it in, and roll with these bums and just try and set ourselves up for a good 2023!!!”. That’s such a casual fan perspective lol. Every team begins the season 0-0 with a clean slate and with the objective to put together a competitive roster for the year. Injuries happen to key players every year and can drastically change the course of a season for any given team, for better or worse. Imagine if Brady got injured in Week 2 and they trot out Kyle Trask who turns out to be a monumental bust. All of a sudden our 5% chance to win the division turns into a 35% chance or w/e. No, I’m not saying we’re banking on a Brady injury to become competitive. There are countless variables and possibilities that inflate or deflate a team’s success in any oven season - that’s just one example (probably the most drastic one, albeit).

Is it really that crazy to imagine CJ Henderson starting for us? I would think the most likely starting CBs are Horn, Jackson, and Henderson. Who else is in contention for a top-3 spot? Maybe Keith Taylor? Rashaan Melvin with a slim outside shot? I would have a hard time believing Henderson isn't the odds-on favor for one of those starting spots.

Here's some pie. Guess you love David Tepper too now. Wow that was easy!

What have we done this offseason to signal we're taking a "young roster-building approach"? Because we drafted a QB? That'd be a strange approach to decide to take in Rhule's third season. Every single team needs productive vets, including developmental ones. Of course Rhule is trying to field a competitive team this year, as every coach does every year. I think there's a certain negative connotation with "win now" mode, which generally implies that a coach is mortgaging the future to capitalize off of a closing window of opportunity (usually involving a roster littered with older vets and/or key players expected to hit FA). I really doubt Dunlap's signing is going to mortgage our future, but we'll have to wait and see the details.

Lol oh well, I tried. Of course they're comparable, with respect to being two completely out-of-left-field, sudden, gigantic, perplexing, significantly impactful moves for Charlotte sports that clearly had a shroud of behind-the-scenes mystique and obfuscation. Can you explain a little more why one warrants a "wait-and-see" approach and the other one warrants a rash and impulsive response? Simply saying "because they're different" is a meaningless rationale. IMO it's pretty clear the difference here is that you're going to always take the position that is least charitable and in direct opposition to Tepper. Which is honestly fine and you can argue that it's justified, given Tepper's failures so far which don't really afford him much charitability when there are a ton of question marks. I'd respect it if you came out and said that outright. But instead, you seem to want to present yourself as this enlightened bastion of objectivity and levelheadedness when I suspect you're just as emotional and biased and reactionary as the average Huddler. Which again, is fine and justified since we're all fans at the end of the day. It takes a lot of discipline to be able to remove your fandom from the equation and evaluate these kinds of things from an objective viewpoint.