MasterAwesome

You see....Corbett's injury was also faked. Actually, that Corbett you've seen at training camp and walking around isn't even the real Corbett. It's a doppelganger...actually not even human - it's a shapeshifting species from a distant galaxy. The real Corbett, he died mysteriously back in 2021. The circumstances were pretty fishy. He was an undercover FBI agent, investigating David Tepper for money laundering and human trafficking. And then he suddenly disappears? I don't think so...

Even if he did say the grade, we know they'd just pivot to something else. It'd be "show us the x-rays" lol. There's a certain sense of entitlement as fans, which I do understand...I mean we're contributing our time (and often money) to this team so we are certainly "stakeholders" in a sense. But the football team is a private business at the end of the day, they are not public servants beholden to us. We're not on the board of directors. The only leverage we have as fans is to decide to walk away and stop investing in this team. But instead of actually doing that and sticking it to The Man, it's just empty posturing about how sick and tired and fed up everyone is. I'm frustrated too, but I'm actually honest with myself...I know what I signed up for, and I still get entertainment from watching us play. The second that stops happening, I'm content walking away.

I'm picturing the average Huddler struggling just to walk around normally on a healthy ankle...so an NFL athlete walking around with a minor ankle sprain must be unfathomable.

Right on cue lol. The Panthers said he'd be out 1-2 weeks. Reich said he'd have an update tomorrow, so if he comes out and is cryptic and vague about it then we can circle back to this discussion. "Walking perfectly fine"...did you think he'd be in a wheelchair or crutches for a minor lower ankle sprain? There's a difference in the level of mobility you need between "walking" vs. "running for your life from a collapsing pocket". You're acting like we don't see injured players dressed in normal clothes standing on the sideline on every single team during every single game. There's an insane number of hamstring injuries this year...are you willing to bet we won't see any of those guys on the sidelines walking around normally? Next you're gonna say Brady Christensen's bicep tear was fake because you swear you saw him in downtown Charlotte picking up a dollar that he dropped. It's clear that the level of function you need from a muscle, joint, etc. in doing day-to-day stuff (like walking) is much less demanding than what you need to play an intense physical contact sport like professional football. It's evident that there's a 1:1 correlation between people who spam the term "clown show" 10+ times a day on this board to describe this organization, and people who think the team has made up a fake injury for Young to have an excuse to sit him. Obviously if you're viewing every FO decision through a lens of mistrust and skepticism, then you're going to forego the simplest explanation that is right in front of you (see: Occam's Razor) and rationalize an alternative explanation that implies nefariousness and incompetence. I'm not even saying the FO isn't incompetent...just that there's a huge leap between "incompetent" and "shady". The latter implies the intent to deceive the public, and I don't know that I've seen any evidence that Reich and co. are that type.

Literally our last win (season finale against the Saints last season) we were down 7-0 in the first half. So yeah, it means when trailing in the 4th quarter. Still a pretty crazy stat.

Right...hilarious. So we're just playing a semantic game here I guess. I have to find a post where you called Bryce the b-word. And on the way there, I'll just have to ignore and overlook all the pie you're dishing out to anti-Bryce posts (sorry, it's for the comedic factor), all the posts where you go after people who are defending Bryce, and about 17 million posts where you're losing your mind over us not drafting Stroud. If you think Bryce is/is going to be a franchise QB, then obsessing over another team's franchise QB is weird.

Sorry, can you explain you pie'ing a post calling this the "worst trade since Sean Gilbert"? That's simply because a 2024 1st and DJ Moore is just too much for a measly franchise QB?

I think the issue people have with your takes is that they are extremely surface level. When it comes to Bryce, you basically just keep saying "Man that Bryce guy just straight up looks BAD!". But we can all see, even in this very thread, that when someone points out how objectively awful of a game Howell had, all of a sudden you're very nuanced: "Well he had a bad game, but wow that was such awful protection. They really need to fix the protection. They also need to do a better job of establishing a run game to open up play action. Oh and they need better playcalling - more screens and slants to open up the deep pass". Like...what? You could say the exact same thing with Bryce. But instead, it's "Yoooo Bryce frickin SUX amirite???".

Okay so it was what I suspected...you don't actually read what I post and you just attribute random arguments to me. I don't want Dalton starting, I want Bryce back under center ASAP. I think it's clear from my original post that I'm simply "hyping up" Dalton (in your words) to explain why he seemingly outperformed Bryce Young yesterday.

Cheers for finally admitting that. But that's the point...how does Fields get part way into his third season before you're comfortable admitting he isn't a franchise QB, but Bryce gets two games? Cause it looks like the difference is that one of them was "your guy", and the other is a guy you never wanted. And if so, then it's pointless discussing things with someone who is so entrenched in his pre-draft biases that there is no productive conversation to be had.

Can you just outright tell me what claim I made that you're finding so offensive? I don't like doing this vague back-and-forth where it feels like you're straw manning everything I say. You brought up Dalton last year; I simply laid out his stat line which I would say is objectively respectable for a back-up QB, and you're calling it a "boast"? And I'm "hyping Dalton up"? Huh? Just tell me who you think are 3 better back-up NFL QBs, because that's about the boldest claim I made about Dalton. Everything else is pretty mild praise. Unless you're a big Teddy Bridgewater fan and my comparison to Teddy is what offended you.

So he's the same dude as last season who had a ~67% completion rate, a 2:1 TD/Int ratio, 205 YPG, 95.2 QB rating? That looks pretty solid to me for a back-up QB. He's basically a Teddy Bridgewater who isn't afraid to take deep shots, which is one of Teddy's biggest criticisms. I'm not saying he's an elite starting QB. And if my whole point is that this board underrates him, then what is the point of mentioning how he was viewed last season in the gameday thread? Yeah I'm sure people were pretty harsh on him, because...he's underrated, that's my point.

Dalton definitely seemed to have a pretty reliable internal clock. Our pass blocking was awful yesterday, and there were so many passes that Dalton made as he was getting hit within 2 seconds. I would say he's easily a top 3 NFL back-up. Then again, an internal clock is exactly the type of thing I'd expect a rookie to need time to get comfortable developing. If we take a deep breath, take a step back, and put aside emotional arguments about how everyone over-hyped Bryce Young...it's a little wild to be comparing a rookie QB with 2 starts to a 13-year veteran with a pretty successful career, right? And acting like it's some damning indictment that said 13-year vet looks better than him? Dalton is definitely underrated on these boards.

Lance: Wilson: Lance/Mac: It's obvious you were gushing over Zach Wilson. Lance/Mac you were clearly very much on board with too. It's okay man, everyone has bad takes. That's kinda the point...it's silly to get up on your high horse and think you're above it all. Your post history is actually pretty entertaining so I went through a bit more of it. These takes above aren't even nearly your worst ones...let me know if you want me to post some of your Rhule/Darnold hype a couple seasons back.

Cool. I went to your post history, starting backwards to see how long it'd take to find a bad take. I didn't even have to move past the first one, which was a post praising Trey Lance ahead of the 2021 draft. But just cause I was bored, I went a bit further: you were also pretty hype about Zach Wilson...and even were on board with us moving back a little to draft Mac Jones. So I'd probably settle down just a bit.

Isn't this your guy though? https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1706282546206527665?s=20 The awkward irony is that if we're actually playing armchair GM here, then we wouldn't have even drafted CJ Stroud if you were making the decisions. We'd have Justin Fields, whom we'd have hitched our wagon to, still convinced that he's our franchise QB. It seems like many of the same people making every excuse in the book for Fields in his 3rd season with a 5-28 record as a starter, are the ones who have abandoned Bryce after 2 games. And you are certainly the poster boy for it, which I would consider one of the most egregious double standards I've seen in my dozen humble years browsing this forum. BTW I'm also on record as wanting to draft Stroud this year. The difference is that I'm not gleefully circle-jerking about it right now, because I'd rather my football team do well than crave vindication about something. Or maybe all this overcompensation about Stroud is your way of trying to sweep your Fields love under the rug and distance yourself from that association. But Pepperidge Farm remembers...

We already knew Bryce Young has the lowest YPA of any rookie QB through his first two games or w/e (I don't remember the exact stat). This chart just illustrates the same thing. It isn't exactly some damning new piece of evidence. But also, I would encourage you guys to take a look at every other QB's passing chart because they all throw ~80+% of their passes within 10 yards of the LOS. I'm not gonna post any specific ones or else I'll get flooded with "YoU'rE tRyiNg To CoMpArE bRyCe To *insert elite QB here*?!?!). But this kind of pass distribution isn't an anomaly, it's the norm. Where Bryce needs to improve, is with converting a higher percentage of those intermediate passes into completions. Also attempting 2-3 more deep shots a game certainly wouldn't hurt.

It's about recognizing that this is quite literally a toxic relationship between some of you and your sports team. Yeah you have the right to keep following the team, but I think people are valid in voicing their concern for why you choose to willingly stay in that incredibly toxic relationship. Just like any relationship...like I have the "right" to remain in a toxic relationship with a girlfriend, abusive family member, etc. but there's an objective truth that it's unhealthy and in my best interest to walk away. The Huddle is, in many ways, like the antithesis to the real world. On the Huddle, it's the "cool thing" to spend hours a day going on emotional tantrums about how awful everything is. Positivity is looked down upon as the behavior of losers. In the real world...the whiny babies are actually the social pariahs who nobody wants to be around because nothing saps you of your energy quite like a one-dimensional wet blanket. Maintaining a positive outlook in the face of adverse circumstances is considered a good trait...crazy, right?! Then again I probably shouldn't single out the Huddle when this is more a theme of terminally online culture.

Apparently it's knee-jerk reaction two games in to worry about Evero leaving as a HC, but two games in is plenty of time to declare Young and Mingo busts, we're going to have a winless 0-17 season, and we're doomed to never win a Super Bowl during poor BigKat's lifetime.

If Dalton does play this week, it'll at least give us an idea of how much of the offensive woes fall on Bryce. Similar to last season when people blamed Baker's batted passes mostly on the predictable playcalling but lo and behold, when PJ and eventually Sam stepped in at starting QB after Baker left, all of a sudden no more batted passes.

If we're discounting Bryce Young's TD drive because "prevent D"...then are we doing that for Stroud's entire 4th quarter when they were down 31-10? Because he got literally half of his yardage (190 out of 384) and half of his point total (10 of 20) in that 4th quarter while they were down 3 TDs. Just wondering.

Nico Collins: 89.0 PFF grade through Week 2. I imagine that's gotta be at least Top 5 for receivers so far. We don't have to argue the talent of each receiving corps *on paper* - people can just throw on the YouTube highlights from these Texans and Colts games to see that their receivers are wide open in many cases, which doesn't appear to be the case with us. Not sure if it's our scheme, receivers, or Young missing the reads. I know your Week 1 analysis showed some evidence of the latter, but even then, they were more "NFL open" than "wide open" like I'm often seeing with these other QBs.

Not the only Persian poster...and we do not claim this man.

Nice try "Gash" Jensen...sorry buddy, ask your coach.

Thomas Davis not moving to LB and becoming a great player until a decade into his career must be the same alternate dimension where we kept Steve Smith exclusively at KR/PR before finally using him at WR after a decade. Which he probably also believes.