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I was thinking the EXACT same thing. An out route is a very common pass at the Pro level. Certain coverages bait you to throw it over the middle. I wanted to see film and delve a tad deeper before jumping to conclusion but my first thought was yikes.

This is promising but we need to pump our breaks a bit. Not trying to sound like a party pooper, but the variables aren’t the same when comparing some of the best wide receivers in the game. Thielen wasn’t lining up against Jalen Ramsey or Stephen Gilmore regularly with his all-pro counterpart Jefferson on the other side. He regularly lined up against the #2 corner from the opposing team. That can’t be ignored when taking this kind of statistic into consideration. All things considered I still think he’s an excellent route runner and Thielen will find tons of openings due to his route running and expertise.

I don’t understand it either Jeudy has been widely inconsistent too. I believe on top of the injuries he finished in the top 3 on dropped passes in 20 and 21. He recovered last year but he still has the injury history.

Our head coach, offensive coordinator, QB coach, running back coach and assistant GM all know what’s it’s like(through experience) to be hit by a 315 pound man. Although I don’t have that in common with them, it makes me believe they will be very uncomfortable drafting Young at 1. I think it’s Stroud with a dark horse of ARich if they trade down. I say don’t get cute. Please just take Stroud.

Yeah I saw David Newton mention it. He really isn’t a good source. Can you confirm someone else acknowledging it ? Typically nose tackles are about 330 pounds to hold the point of attack and eat up space. I don’t see Shy holding up at Nose. Seems more like a rotational piece for defensive end.

Soooo are we really rolling with Derrick Brown at NT or will we get another huge Hog Molly outside of McCall. Derrick Brown at NT is such a waste isn’t it ? Nose tackle or 1 techniques purpose is to eat up blocks. I guess he could rotate to nose on obvious passing downs but yikes it seems like we need another big true nose.

Thought you were mistaken until I looked up his size. YGM is 6-5 265 …. Yikes perfect for 4-3 which we all know he has sucked. His size is to small for Edge in a 3-4 and to big for linebacker because he isn’t athletic enough.

I’m curious too. We may need Eflein and Cade Mays big time in camp. Our starting guards got hurt so late in the season. May take them some time to get back up to speed. I say keep him.

In a 3-4 defense Burns will not be a defensive lineman. He played in a 4-3 but his body type has always been suited more for a 3-4. Most of our defensive ends were better suited for a 3-4 (Edge rushing linebacker).

Bruh…… Only thing I can think of is he wants a haul, but I swear he fits our team philosophy and he fits our down south Carolina vibe. Love how active he was on a 1 year deal in the community. Imagine how he would amp it up on a 4 year deal.

Lol in fairness the arm length debate was mostly Rhule and any sheep that followed. I could be wrong but most Huddlers were trying to understand his dumb logic. Rhule used analytics to justify all the wrong things. While ignoring the analytics that would have helped the Panther org. So glad he is gone.

I get the viewpoint of digging deeper on all the QB’s from analyst an Huddlers, but we have been a QB deprived team for about 7 seasons now, due to our own malpractice with Cam. Our scouts and key personnel have already done their homework. We wouldn’t have traded the capital to get to 1 if there were THREE good quarterback prospects we trust. The reports out there that we like 3 or 4, that’s a smoke screen. I personally think our front office can see the increased probability of Levis getting them all FIRED. You can’t teach nano-second decision making. Levis doesn’t have it despite his other 5 star tools. The front office knows this is a microwave society and people want a product now, not in 2025 (A.Rich) side note: AR can be really good with time. Bryce is small. He’s the best player but we have too much NFL experience on our coaching staff to draft an anomaly like that. I think he can make it through a season but I do not think that body type bodes well for an injury free career. So no way we draft Levis. It’s CJ #1A with the slight possibility of going Bryce.

This is spot on. Our Panthers have other needs as a team, so I dont know if we can sign OBJ and Hardman. We do have some cap flexibility now but what’s recommended by other posters. That’s a stretch. We should give our best shot at the players you mentioned and maybe use our 3rd rounders and 4th rounders to help the switch to a 3-4 defense. We dont need a lot on the defensive side to convert as most of our Defensive ends should have been edge/linebackers in a 3-4 anyway.

Yes but in this case the tape matches game day plus teams were very impressed by CJ Strouds knowledge in his interviews

That’s possible but remember, you also have to beat out the competition in front of you. Levis has elite measurables. At Alabama and OSU I don’t believe he would have beat out Bryce Young or CJ Stroud for their respective starting spots. Regardless of size the player that plays the best in practice typically gets the nod. He struggled to win the starting spot at Penn State hence his transfer. Tons of narratives out there but the rumor I went with was neither QB stood out at Penn State so the coach went with the vet presence. Sometimes a player just is who he is. He’s an above average college QB at his peak, but to be an NFL starter you need to be a unicorn. In Levis’s case I don’t believe that will translate to the possibility of him becoming a top 10 NFL quarterback. I would love to see your in-depth analysis of him though. As previously mentioned I enjoy your perspective l just feel indifferent on Levis.

You’re one of the better posters on the Huddle, but I never understood your fascination with Levis. He forces throws and as analyst look in hindsight at his tape they have trouble understanding his decision making. Levis is athletic with a big arm, but he has awful pocket presence. We have the staff to teach a QB to make better decisions, but you can’t teach a QB to have that sixth sense in the pocket. Of the 4 big prospects he’s a bull in a China shop in the pocket. That’s worrisome and as objective as you are about the other draft prospects your objectivity seems to fly out the window when it comes to Levis. ‘Hey if we draft Levis and I’m wrong about him I will be ecstatic, but I can’t ignore the glaring issues that have been highlighted this season. He’s also the oldest of the big 4 prospects. I don’t see him miraculously growing into a top 10 quarterback with his pocket issues. Heck Darnold had a much better college resume than Levis and he’s only 2 years older.

Man this is a dream come true so far! With all this experience I hope our staff can see eye-to-eye while being open to constructive criticism.

Agreed. I dont want an offensive lineman with our 1st round pick. I prefer AR if we get stuck at 9 or Levis. I’ll let Reich decide which one works better in his offense. Our 2nd and 3rd round picks can cover the guard holes we may have. Resign Bozeman.

Personally I see CJ Stroud and Bryce Young as QB 1 and 2 but I only see Stroud as the one that’s worth trading up for. Bryce is a magician but he’s going to miss games in the NFL. He’s just too small and the pass rush gets even better at the pro level. If we can’t get Stroud by trading up I prefer we wait until 9 and select one of the project guys and keep our picks. We can do damage with 2 second round picks and 2 thirds. We need offensive guard help desperately if we are going to start a rookie QB at some point. Losing both starting guards in week 18 will have an impact into the upcoming season. Let’s not act like Bozeman isn’t the perfect fit for the Carolinas either.

Signing Bozeman is beyond vital. The line all came together when he finally took the reins. I agree with you on Shaq too. A linebacker in todays NFL that can defend the pass at an efficient rate and can tally 135 tackles along the way ? People can deny it all they want but that’s special. The 4-3 capable linebackers in this draft outside the top 3 aren’t that impressive against the pass so I’m torn.

I’m on board with you. It just screams desperation, which rarely works out. If we can trade down just a tad and get another 2nd round pick then maybe take AR or Hooker we would then have three 2nd round picks to pick the best young quality players available.

Bruh thank you for just saying it. Losing is for pussies. Anyone with management experience or some sort of leadership experience knows it’s very hard to get people back on the wagon once you lose them. No one wants young talented players out there just for a check. Confidence and belief in your abilities go a long way in any business or sport. At 3-13 team most of the same people crying about our record would not think a quarterback would fix our issues. You just can’t make some people happy.

Yes I’m happy for Baker too. I didn’t see the game but the post game transcript is pretty telling. The Raiders were running press coverage in the 4th. In the post game interview Baker said he was surprised of the coverage. I saw a stat that said Baker was 0 for 20 when down at least 13 points starting the 4th quarter since joining the NFL. In my humble opinion it’s more of an indictment on the Raiders for being over confident.

With 2 weeks to game plan against Von Miller for the Super Bowl, Shula assumes a journey man fringe right tackle didn’t need help. Yep baffling and just plain stupid. I blame the guy from my avatar too.

I really think CJ is going to figure it out. I agree he has definitely underperformed, but you see glimpses of Henderson doing the right thing. He panics a lot in coverage. Hopefully the light comes on sooner than later.