Wundrbread33

I would be fine with any of the QB’s in the 4th tbh. You can live with a 4th that busts. Corral in the 4th is nuts considering his arm and release. Wouldn’t mind Howell as well.

I like his highlight vid. Fun to start there. The full games clip vids? There’s a lot of trouble with those.

After Bridgewater and Darnold, we deserve a Dak Prescott in the 4th.

The top QB this year did lol

Does anyone actually know how fast Willis is? Healthy guys who avoid the 40 probably don’t have top 5 QB speed.

Maybe I am, but I’m not making up fairy tales and revising history to make an argument. Please do move on.

First off he did already in NE. Unless Covid counts. Second you put words in my mouth, I never said that. I simply said I would prefer he get a full off-season with skill players, be able to actually learn the playbook, and to have a regular training camp for the first time since he’s been healthy. But this isn’t going anywhere. You clearly see things differently.

People thought Willis would go top 10 because QB’s get overdrafted due to need. The only hype was some deep balls he threw. It has been clear from the jump that this class is the least hyped and didn’t have a franchise clear cut guy. Put the blunt down.

I’d love to know what I’m assuming. And someone who thinks coming in off the street with 6 games left is ideal in any way probably shouldn’t trust their eyes.

So now we are pretending this class was hyped? One of us…is living…in their…own world…

You don’t know this though You are assuming. or is catching Covid considered “not healthy enough to make it a full season”?

So coming to a new team with 6 games remaining, not having any reps with your receivers, not knowing the playbook outside of a qb power package… Thats ideal? I’m…I’m not sure this conversation can go anywhere if that situation is ideal. I’m stunned.

I don’t think you are remembering Clausen correctly. Or you simply remember Panther Clausen and not predraft/draft Clausen.

I don’t want Cam here because I feel sorry for him. I don’t mean fair as in “hand out”. He legit hasn’t had an opportunity for a real off-season with a team since he got healthy. Patriots signed him during a fuged Covid year. The next year he had the full off-season then they cut him to go with the rookie. Then he comes here not knowing the offense and without the time to develop chemistry and timing with receivers. Timing matters. Knowing the full offense matters. Cam with a full off-season with these skill players and new line wins more games than Darnold/PJ.

For the record I would rather us shoot Darnold into the sun and give Cam a genuine off-season/camp and chance (that he really hasn’t had since returning to health). That a whole other discussion though.

Corral is thin yes. Doubt he’s stronger than Howell. He is taller though obviously. I know it’s cliche at this point but Clausen was seen as a better prospect than these guys too. Last years heroic QB class all looked like poo. Although measurables say they have more potential but still. It’s just such a hard position to get right. Using the filter that the arm strength/accuracy is enough to make NFL throws, then the MOST IMPORTANT thing is between the ears. Does Darnold have more of that than the above two guys?

Howell and Corral (excluding Willis because of level of competition and rawness) are just as fast or pretty close. Both their arms are close. They both can make every NFL throw. Corral has a much faster release. Howell has guts and a natural feel for moving a team down the field. Both look like better leaders easily. Even comparing college tape, Darnold isn’t head and shoulders better than these guys. There is just so much narrative influence on where QB’s go. Like I saw “tank for Howell” all over last year, then he loses tons of skill position players, still has a good year though the stats regress, and he’s not good anymore? I don’t buy it. Why was he so highly regarded last year? Just stats? He still has the same arm strength, same thick frame, same deep ball. Hell he showed to be a better runner. These guys could all be trash but wouldn’t it be funny if 2-3 of these guys become pro bowl talent. I’d laugh my ass off.

Cam has done more good that any hater here has. I’d bet on that.

I can understand someone preferring Neal…but upset? Hard to understand someone being upset.

Year 3 is a big year for linemen. And although he hasn’t been dominant, what does our line look like without him…

The closer we get to the draft, the more I think BPA at 6 for us is Jordan Davis. Defensive pick would piss off the fan base. Another DT would upset people too, but he (along with Neal) is a freak unicorn at a position we actually suck at. It makes so much sense for us. Brown would look better instantly too. Either way this top 10 is loaded with big guys and we should pick a lineman, whether offensive or defensive. Need lines up with BPA.

That action plan hasn’t worked for you.

Just need the Giants to be dumb enough to draft their pass rusher first at 5 lol.

Yeah. My original comment checks out.

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