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To be fair, those numbers are on par with our starter most Sundays.

Except if Cam fails, the pick still would be justified by his freak physicals. Bryce just looks comically embarrassing as a selection if he fails.

Right but generally the #1 prospect is #1 for more reasons than just his brain. Caleb not participating doesn’t matter. He’s a physical blue chip.

I keep going back to him not doing poo at the combine. The super processor narrative was in full force, and he wasn’t our pick yet so there was no reason to be concerned then…but that’s always a red flag to me.

I think Chubba can move the pile, but I’m not saying he’s J Stew level. I’m a Stew truther who thought he should have been 1 and Deangelo 2 the whole time. Perhaps injury is the only reason he wasn’t. Dude was different and gifted.

“If a man wants nothing, I can give him nothing.” Steve may give lots of help, but it’s still on who’s receiving the help. NFL is hard. Not everyone makes it. Mingo working with Steve at least shows there is effort there. Better than nothing.

It’s funny: if you talk about Bryce like this on Reddit, they treat you like you are saying the assassination attempt on Trump actually happened.

The man had dropsies and has busted his ass with reps to fix it. That alone is enough to love the guy, but as you mentioned, it’s not the only part of his game that has grown. Rhule’s wife drafted a guy who is the epitome of keep pounding.

There is a reason why this wasn’t a topic of discussion with Beuerlein, Weinke, Delhomme, Cam, hell even Matt Moore, Darnold, Baker, etc. Do people think this topic is attached to Bryce for no reason?

People are arguing two different things here. NO ONE is concerned about Bryce being able to throw 20 yards past the LOS. People ARE concerned if Bryce can spread a defense, back up coverage, and open the field up. That’s why this definition isn’t landing effectively. It does not address the concern. So we can keep arguing a definition that does not speak to the concerns, or better yet, let’s come up with a word that communicates what people here mean when they say “deep ball” incorrectly.

If 20 is a “deep ball”, then we need another term for 30,40,50 etc. When people say “deep ball” in conversation, you know they don’t mean 20 yards. Most people who are at least in their teens can throw a ball 15-20 yards. Focusing in on a definition defining “deep” as 20 yards is missing the entire point. I don’t have to use the term “deep ball”…fans are concerned about Bryce’s ability to stretch the defense and apply pressure down field. But you all know this already. A lot of bad faith conversation on this site.

If we have to pull out definitions of “deep throw” to back up Young; then that speaks for itself.

Thanks for posting this. I don’t know how many of you guys also visit the Reddit panther sub, but damn Mingo catches so much poo in there, and Bryce gets every excuse. Seems like inconsistent logic to me that Bryce gets a pass for the team dysfunction, but Mingo is just a bust. I saw inconsistent tape from Mingo, but he had plenty of examples of good route running…showing me he can do it. He was a rookie, and naturally was inconsistent with it. I don’t think we are dealing with Dwayne Jarrett here. I look forward to seeing him develop more consistency…and I hope Bryce can get him the ball if he does.

Was about to comment similar. I haven’t had time to dive into prospects as much this year, but a dynamic back should be on the table if available too. Just add weapons. A quick hitter YAC back would be nice. Maybe Canales has a better plan for Sanders though.

He’s a bust but Evero has taken guys I’ve never heard of and found a place for them to thrive. Who knows? Between DJ Johnson, Barno, and Chaisson (maybe draft pick)…he may be able to get production. Barno is my guy to watch. Even without sacks, he has value with his speed of pursuit down the line.

No one ever mentions Woods and it’s criminal. Hits hard. Great instincts. Can cover. Safety is sometimes treated like the O-line…they are most noticed when they screw up.

Not convinced he would have been as unwatchable as Bryce this season.

I have liked Richards development and I credit him for making himself an NBA player. But with how poo our centers have been, we absolutely should have kept both Mark and Duren, with Richards as the best 3rd center in basketball.

Depends on the definition of succeeding. Right now, I think his “succeeding” will be a Teddy, or a little past that in a Garoppalo level of managing the game. A mid tier guy who, with lots of help, won’t keep you from the postseason, but would be the reason you lose in the postseason. I don’t view that as succeeding personally. But his ceiling seems to be a guy who starts, but is always rumored to be traded or replaced. I hope my assessment is wrong.

As negative (or doubtful) as I feel toward him, I also want him to succeed too. He seems like a good kid, and I (of course) want our Panthers to be competitive every Sunday. Your attitude is the sensible one. Can’t change the past. Hope for the best present. Make a change in the future if necessary.

The issue is you don’t want the number one pick to be “anyone”-lite.

Could be the case that TMJ was just unlucky to be drafted by this offensive train wreck of a franchise. Best offense was with Teddy. That says a lot. A ton of reps were wasted with “Chosen” too. Maybe he’s also a guy who relies on his physical ability, and that doesn’t work often at this level. I’m just assuming though. We don’t know how hard he works or not. I’m never a fan of cutting high ceiling players like him during their rookie deal, unless they are a locker room cancer of some kind. I’d just let his contract run out, and see what Canales thinks of him and if he can get anything out of him. Either way…outside of Moose and Colberts rookie year…2nd round WR’s have been ridiculously pathetic for us.

Someone said Brady didn’t have a strong arm TOO. But Brady could throw that deep ball high with arc. Perfect deep balls.

Weren’t we told no one would want to come here because of Tepper? The truth seems to be that a job in the NFL is a job in the NFL.