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I just love how narratives change over time. No one “knows” anything and just puts together educated guesses into stories, which get pushed as “reality.” Pre (and during) the draft/off-season, the Texans were poo on. They’ve been a laughing stock since the Watson scandal. Dumpster fire. Good story with the new HC, but man it was seen as a tough spot for a rookie to walk into a team devoid of talent with a rookie HC and poo O-line. We were the perfect place for the rookie QB, Vet staff, solid defense that just needed help from the offense, young offensive mind paired with an experienced one, popular QB coach, and Moore being traded was downplayed like hell. Now? Narrative is we suck, no talent, Texans actually are well built and well coached, with talented skill players surrounding Stroud. It just comes off as cope for Bryce, with Stroud not getting enough credit. I’m bitter now, so perhaps this is my lens of bias reading it this way, but I see a lot of this stuff as saving face.

Icky is huge, but remember that he’s basically a kid. Very young man. Lets not pick apart every word that comes out of his mouth.

There could be value in convincing yourself you are watching a parody of doodoo football (think Sharknado-ish) and laugh at how impressively ass it is. A Guinness or two would assist with that.

The only plus side to being shitty is diving into the youth of the roster and seeing development/growth and periodic flashes. That can be fun. But so often you have stubborn coaches who trot out the same vets for the sake of it. poo is lame and unbearable. This is John Fox lame duck season status at least, but somehow this feels even worse because of the peak hype last off-season, contrasted with whatever the fug we see each Sunday.

I agree. Theilen aside, now is the time to see what you have in guys who haven’t played thus far. I’d bench/reduce Chark’s snaps first. He’s not here next year. No point. Make Tremble TE1, and use Sullivan more. Force the ball to TMJ for a couple games and sink or swim time. If he shows he can’t do it, move on for good. All the bottom WR’s need snaps. See what we have. Sanders shouldn’t see the field anymore. Blackshear/Cohen get all his touches. It’s time for young guy evaluation…stop waisting PT on vets who aren’t performing.

I always had a feeling that Moore regressed because he didn’t feel secure with the team drafting Clausen high in the draft. Could be wrong, but he looked like he was pressing instead of playing free the year before.

Yeah. And to be clear, I don’t want to put that all on him. From top to bottom of the organization, what we were sold, vs what we ended up with…I’m just stunned. For the first time in my life, I just don’t like football anymore. This organization did a number on my fandom. I’m not even sad anymore. I just barely care. I’m still here though. So my fandom isn’t entirely gone yet. But it’s hanging on by the thinnest of threads.

Probably unpopular. Probably irrational. Probably dumb: But I don’t want to watch Bryce anymore. I just don’t care. Even when he “plays well” it’s just boring, dunk dunk, “efficient”. It’s very passive and every pass feels like a “settle for” type of pass. There’s just zero wow. Zero balls. This is the most apathetic I’ve felt as a fan.

Could be. People like to think you can reduce everything to hard data and numerical value…but some poo can’t be measured that way. Human beings, their minds, and everything that influences them…poo is complex.

Sure but he missed a wide open TMJ on a crossing route who had 3-5 yards of separation, with the potential to house it. He was gun shy last night too. I saw plenty of open receivers, and he either just hesitated and didn’t pull the trigger, or he didn’t progress to them in time (or by design he wasn’t supposed to look their way). Every position group has regressed. This a complete failure from top to bottom. Including Young. He’s a rookie so he gets the least blame to me, but he ain’t showing anything right now. Hell he may be broken at this point. And I don’t see anything that validates “#1 pick”. Again, not his fault. But damn this is depressing poo and this is a low point in franchise history.

Looking like it. This was my angle a year before while discussing QB’s in the Corral draft. Everyone drooling over Young/Stroud…but the unanswerable question mark was how much success was them vs. the talent around them. Pickett/Corral/Howell, etc didn’t have the supporting casts that Young/Stroud did. Stroud has already shown he is an individually talented player. Young? Still waiting. Not looking likely.

I love fajitas. This made me feel worse.

I’m rooting for it. This team makes me hate football. I’ve loved the game my whole life, and now I don’t. I hope they get smashed for taking this game from me.

The game is over so Bryce can’t throw any more pick 6’s today!

I banged the drum for a vet while we allow Corral to come back and develop. Clearly I was wrong on Corral, but damn that was a cheaper way to fug up.

Here’s the thing about that test. I don’t necessarily think the S2 test is worthless. Might be, but maybe not. The thing is…”processing speed” only matters if you are athletic enough to play in the NFL. Young isn’t half the athlete Corral is. Their arms aren’t even comparable. And Corral isn’t even in the league anymore. Not even sure he’s alive tbh.

How could the decision makers who saw these guys in person NOT SEE THAT? Unbelievable.

All I know is an interim coach with largely Rhules staff had every position group playing better than this staff with coaching experience dating back to 47 B.C.

…I’ve watched all those guys. But it’s like commentary is told to compliment this kid. All he does is 8 yard throws. This kid makes Teddy 2 Gloves look like Big Ben.

Best case scenario is this kid becomes a game manager who takes what the defense gives him. Stroud does what he wants to the defense. Every throw looks effortless. The people who evaluated both these guys IN PERSON, who made the final decision to take Bryce…bye bye. You don’t know what you are doing.

Never heard any other QB get “nice throw!” comments from the commentary after 8 yard throws. That’s such basic poo and he gets sucked off for it all the time. He’s so “composed” though. It’s like talking heads just want nice guys out there, and winning/production comes after. Was Cam ever complimented over an 8 yard throw to a TE over the middle? No…he just balled out on Sunday and got criticized for the towel on his head. It’s all bullshit.

Just go ahead and tell me how overrated Burns is and how air defends the run better than he does.

Panthers (6-1): “Happy for them” Panthers (1-6): “fug dem kids”

This. A thousand times this!

Luvu only getting a 78 validates how meaningless PFF is. Dude should have got a 283.