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Only problem is there’s 0.0% Cam Newton/Andrew Luck types in this draft. Well there is one but he can’t forward pass yet.

No. Anyone but Baker. We are over it.

I don’t hate looking at QB’s, but people need to compare tape of these guys to Corral’s tape. Corral wasn’t 3rd round because he isn’t talented. The narrative of “weak QB class” took over, along with “he got hurt” and “he’s a drunk!” BS. The tape I’ve seen from some of the top guys in this class…well I’ll just say Matt is just as talented so far. I would love a pass rusher, LB, TE/WR, more OL in the 1st. Sign a vet bridge QB if you don’t want to start Corral right away. Outside of being 6’5”, Corral has all the tools to work with and develop.

I get that point of view and I don’t necessarily disagree. I don’t know a lot about that Arizona squad outside of clearly being a transition from one era to the next. Our team however, has had clearly the worst QB play in the league with Baker. Completely pathetic (I blame McAdoo too). PJ is quite literally our 4th string QB, but it’s not out of the question that he ends up moving the ball better than Baker. It’s crazy that if Baker was the 25th worst QB instead of 32nd, this team could be sitting at 3-2 or 4-1 and Rhule is still coach. So I fully expect to keep losing with PJ, but I wouldn’t be shocked if we won some games with just slightly more effective offense.

I’ve seen just a tiny bit of him but his size, arm strength, and mobility pop off the screen. He could be a great example of not having to tank to get talent at QB, which I think there are plenty of examples of.

Fitterer can go straight to hell if he trades CMC for a late 2nd or 3rd round pick, while eating the contract. And fug tanking. It doesn’t work. Players won’t lay down. And getting the first QB in the draft doesn’t mean you end up with the best QB in the draft. You tend to give the #1 pick more commitment and time, but it’s not even clear that there is a dude head and shoulders better as a prospect than Corral in this draft.

Hoping Horn rubs off on Henderson too. If Henderson can have more confidence and stop interfering when he has good coverage, look out. This is definitely the most athletic, speedy corner group we have ever had. Horn legit looks like the perfect corner made in a lab.

I’ll say it again: Put Corral on Alabama or Ohio State, and he’s a top 5 pick. Those teams always have the best roster on Saturday. Whether you like or don’t like Corral, the thought experiment still works.

Keep in mind, it is possible to fail, learn from that failure, and improve. Quinn, reflecting on what didn’t work and improving on those things, is a coach I wouldn’t mind. Quinn, if stubborn and set in his ways, is a coach I wouldn’t want. So far he’s a .500 head coach WITH QB FIGURED OUT. So not sure how he would do better here without more knowledge of his personal development, if that has even happened.

Easier to talk poo when the person leaves the room.

Without a QB or a coordinator that can help a crappy QB, I don’t see how you can effectively evaluate offensive talent from where we are sitting. And that is really the question. Because our defense shows nearly every week that they have the talent to keep this dumpster fire competitive.

Now do McAdoodoo!

I will say this about PJ. He doesn’t play scared. He doesn’t have happy feet. He doesn’t see ghosts. He can complete a pass. Has a laser arm. It’s just that he’s good for 3-5 “what the fug was that” throws when he plays.

I do it. Next year. Let him “Rodney Peete” for our next QB.

Wait…didn’t someone get canned over this? If they followed protocol as written, then they did their job, and got fired because of an uncontrollable “outcome” of Tua's head bouncing off the turf.

Yes. Rhule does indeed suck.

All reasonable things to be concerned about. I was more addressing the general vibe. At least from what I observed. I remember being optimistic and appreciated Tepper being aggressive and throwing the money around. I equally was concerned with the full control thing, but that, I’m sure, was a big factor in convincing him to come here. We know for sure now. I’m ready to move on to the next coaching chapter.

Maybe you had reservations, but most people saying they “knew Rhule would fail” are revising history. He was one of the hottest HC names that year, and many were excited to have an owner who “was aggressive to get the guy he wanted.” People were by and large even more excited when Brady was hired too.

In 2018, under Norv Turner, Cam was in route to another dominant season, and the offense was scoring over 27 points per game before the infamous Pittsburgh game when Cam got hurt and the season fell apart. They had something special going. I do agree that anything after that hasn’t been better than Shula though.

Cam.

Is there a Cam in this draft though? I don’t see it. It’s still early though. Top 2 QB’s from Bama and Ohio St., and those teams always outclass their opponent talent wise. Cam carried Auburn on his back.

I’m expecting to lose by 21 so we will win by 4 with 2 defensive TD’s.

That’s one thing I really loved about Corral in college. Excellent pump fake. Baker must utilize the pump, but he also needs to work better with his eyes, and navigate the pocket and slide his feet to open throwing lanes. He’s pressing and on tilt right now too. You can tell the batted balls are in his head.

As time passes, the more I think Cam didn’t want us vs. they not wanting to bring him back. I trust him saying he didn’t want to come back for 5-12. It was a great ride, and I appreciate everything he did for this franchise. What a player to watch. I feel sorry for those who didn’t appreciate him during his time here. You know, the “runs don’t count; last time I checked, QB’s throw the ball” crowd.