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I think taking something intangible like “good coaching” and trying to quantify it with “2-3 more wins” is trying to make a complete crapshoot guess sound intelligent. No matter how much sense we try to make of the world, some things aren’t explainable numerically. A great team is a combination of coaches putting players in situations that take advantage of their strengths, the players having strengths that can be put in position for an advantage, leadership at the player level that holds everyone accountable, and full buy-in by those players. Leadership and buy-in build a circular momentum, with everyone feeding off each other momentum, and that leads to chemistry, and success. Special teams are a perfect storm of these things. 2015 was that. 2023 lacks all of that by the looks of it, but one of those things being off can have a cascade affect on all the others. That why you see a coaching change turn a team around. Or one star player lifting his peers (Luke). Without being in the building, it’s hard to tell if it’s all the above that is wrong, or just one or two things (coaching/o-line maybe?).

Digging up past #1 overall…or top 5 picks really does nothing though. Those were different people, drafted by different teams, with different coaches. It’s fruitless.

I just really want to type “Akili Smith” tho.

Cam needed to be defended because the media parroted the “thug” narrative out do the gate, and during his career they would always exclude his rushing stats to make him look bad. Naturally, football “fans” would parrot these things too, including that he only had one good season…smh. And Cam’s personality made him a “love him on your team, hate him on the opponent” kind of guy. My dad’s generation always called him a sore loser too. I always liked that about Cam though. Bryce so far is the polar opposite if Cam in nearly every way. So this Cam defender is not a Bryce defender. Bryce was crowned before taking a snap, and now isn’t meeting expectations. It’s not all his fault, but until he produces or shows something worthy of his draft status, I’m not running to coddle him more.

I don’t care enough right now to look it up, but YPC isn’t the stat. Air yards per attempt is what we are looking for. Tired of people running to bryce’s defense. I understand it may be too early to hate/we need to be patient, but stop selling people on how great he is. He needs to show it.

The way Bryce plays right now, he won’t ever have a 4 int day. You have to take chances and push the ball to throw picks.

Howell is a 5th rounder that is more athletic and has a stronger arm than our #1 pick. And he has balls. We better hope this is all Frank holding bryce back. Doubtful though.

I long for the days when people criticized our QB for being pissed off with a losing mentality.

Wtf I wasn’t defending Bryce?

Who knows. Everything is broken right now. Just hoping Brown will be allowed to call the offense soon. Maybe Frank has screwed this up. It’s basically throw your hands up in the air time right now. Everything is difficult on offense.

How did Teddy Bridgewater not teach everyone that completions don’t matter, but the type of completion is what matters. Bryce is basically handing the ball off dinking the ball around.

Ruin him? The coddling for bryce is on another level.

We took an unathletic, 5’10”, limp armed quarterback with the first overall pick in the nfl draft.

I’m not sure Bryce has the arm to push the ball down field, and he’s playing like he believes that too.

Everyone having a good time?

I’m pretty sure CJ is healthy, and he can run with anybody. Jefferson won’t surpass 70 yards. He will have 140 PI yards though.

I just want to see that we didn’t draft Teddy Bridgewater with more processing power.

If only we could draft receivers. It’s early obviously for Mingo, but it is painful seeing other rookies flourishing for other teams. We are due for a diamond in the rough. It’s been a tough couple decades aside from DJ, but he was a 1st rounder.

As a Burns defender against some really bad takes on here… I agree. I think back to Kris Jenkins. As great as Peppers was, peak Jenkins took the d-line to another level. Peak Jenkins was one of the best linemen I’ve ever seen, even if it was short lived. Sacks are great, but a man who can destroy the interior of the pocket? And still chase dudes down at 6’5”320? Give me that all day.

Always a possibility.

Morgan, if competent in a GM role, is about as perfect a fit/story as you can get. We loved him as a player, and how cool if he was integral in building consistent success from the front office.

I always expected him to learn the first half of the season and to get reps the second half. He’s physically built already, so just a matter of him learning mentally. We shall see.

OP, it sounds like you would have enjoyed if we just ran it back with Wilks and co, who did just what you are describing with a power run game to put the QB in the best possible situation. Wilks of course had Darnold, yet managed to finish 4-2. A lot of people will excuse away that success, but it was success. I’m 37, so maybe we are just two old farts, but I saw Wilks philosophy as a smart approach in a league with only a handful of elite QB’s, with high odds that you won’t have one of those guys. It was fun watching us physically dominate with a power run game, but people don’t want that. They want to win the Mahomes way…but finding a Mahomes is damn hard. People don’t think about that part.

Figured we would run more 2TE sets considering we kept 37.3 TE’s on the roster.