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I don't think you understand how it works. Defense has no fear of these WRs. I could be out there throwing to Tyreke Hill and I promise you they'd have help over the top.

Why is Marsette not in the game? He needs Mingos reps.

Ya'll so goofy. Mahomes has an unconventional drop back and he hops too. So I guess he needs to clean all that up too, huh? Bryce gets beat the F up every game. The one game he didn't get beat up (well, after they replaced Jensen), he passed for 300 yards and 2 TDs with no turnovers. He definitely needs to improve on his decision making and coming off of covered receivers sooner, but let's not act like the playcalling is superior. I think Thompson can be good, but he's a brand new playcaller! He needs time before he gets there, particularly with an oline that can't hold and receivers that can't get consistent separation - or catch the ball consistently. Marsette needs to take Mingo's reps. Period. Bryce Young needs to step up on the chances he gets. Agree. Yes. But... if you get you're getting your tail blown up all game, it's hard to sit in the pocket and step into throws. Ya'll aren't being realistic. The dude is not a machine. Those hits don't feel good, but he's supposed to assume the oline will hold on every play? Nah, stop the cap. If any one of ya'll we're getting your ish pushed in the way he does every game, I promise you, you'd have happy feet and look to escape the pocket at the first sign of a break down. I don't give a F what your charts say. Last Sunday was not NFL average protection. Not even close.

There's been a lot of shuffling at the OG positions. That has made a huge difference in the way the offense can run. Judging by last week, they may have finally found a combination that makes protection at least NFL average. Thomas looks more willing to call plays downfield and BY looks more willing to take shots. That was the cause of a lot of the Panthers issues - at least offensively.

Jags like to run off tackle. Panthers starting DEs, particularly Burns, are inconsistent setting the edge. That's gonna make for a long day. The way Jones just ran all over this defense, Etienne is gonna feast. And he's a better receiving back. Evero has his work cut out for him. He's really gonna have to mix things up - with personnel and alignment. He tried against Green Bay, but it didn't really work. Not sure what can be done. Maybe a spy that isn't a pure LB. Chinn maybe. I don't know. This one is gonna be tough. Panthers will probably have to score alot to stay in this one.

Imagine if they had let Jensen stay in the game. Everyone would still be trashing Bryce Young on how he has a noodle arm and can't read defenses. Meanwhile he's running from DTs and LBs as soon as he completes his dropback, or best case he can't step into a throw because of a dirty pocket. Or he'll never be able to play in the NFL because of how bad his footwork is - and it's 100% uncorrectable. And no one would realize that Chark could actually get open and make plays if given more than 2 seconds before his QB had to bail on the play.

Really hate it that our new QB will have to learn yet another offense in his 2nd year in the NFL. That, along with some major changes in personnel is not how you help a young player. Consistency is extremely important to young guys learning the game at the highest level.

Receivers didn't get good all of a sudden. Thomas is using guys like they SHOULD be used and not just forcing concepts, like Chark being a deep route guy. He isn't that right now. And whoever is making the personnel decisions... where have you been? The improved protection is making the QB and the receivers look light years better. And no idea why Marsette wasn't getting burn. We all could see it, but Reich couldn't. He needs to be a key cog in the offense. Easily the best playmaker on the team.

Thinking the same thing. Maybe just wanted to take advantage of the penalty - 1 yard? That's all I got.

That's 100% on the receiver/TE that fell down. That's a completion if he doesn't fall.

Could have used one of those 1st rounders unstead of trading DJ Moore to the Bears. DJ Moore would be infinitely more important to this team than Burns right now. And then could have used that 2nd rounder on an Edge, TE or IOL instead of trying to replace DJ Moore with Mingo.

Just to be clear, did he show adequate arm strength? Has he dispelled the noodle arm title or no?

Admittedly didn't watch every play. Did BY answer the arm strength questions today or are we sure he still doesn't have an NFL arm?

I really think he needs to get more targets in the passing game. Really think he'd be the best deep threat on the team. And YAC. Potentially making him the best receiver on the team.

No one knows what this young man will turn into as a pro. But wow, he's supposed to complete every pass? Has a QB ever gone 35 for 35?

Are people complaining about Bryce today? Really? Y'all are liars. You said you were rooting for him to turn the corner. You said you'd be happy if he showed anything to give you hope that he could lead the offense and be our franchise QB. Now you're finding every reason to minimize his best performance. Ridiculous...

I know hindsight is 20/20 or 50/50 or something like that, but not trading Burns last year cost the Panthers the #1 pick in the 2024 draft. That's enough by itself. But earning the #1 pick with his roster and then losing it for a situational pass rusher...

I don't know. He made some plays Sunday, but getting sealed by a WR for a TD is almost unforgivable for a DE.

Not that anyone really cares, but here's my take... Bryce is leaving a LOT of plays on the field. No doubt. Guys are open now that Zavala and whoever the other Guard was, are out of the game. Now he's hesitating due to a lack of confidence. He's forcing throws when other guys are open. He's lost his swag. That's tough for a QB. Confidence and trust are everything. That doesn't mean you should cheer for him to fail. Like it or not, he'll be the starting QB for Carolina until at least the first half of next season. At LEAST. If he doesn't get better then we have to watch a crap show offense every week. Just feels like some would rather be right about him being the wrong pick, than watching the team have success. It's ok to say he made a good play when he makes a good play. Just like it's ok to say he screwed up when he does. No need to spin everything to fit your negative objective. I didn't want a QB in the draft. Honestly didn't think any of them were worth a top 10 pick let alone what we gave up to get to #1. I still don't. But now that he's a Panther, Bryce is our guy - at least for now. Maybe I'm just hopelessly loyal. But I don't think it's a bad thing to want your guy to have success, even when he's playing his worst. I can acknowledge the guy's mistakes, but some of these takes are ridiculous. Bordering on blind hate. I come here to have meaning conversations about the team and what's going on behind the scenes - that the general public may not know or report. Hard to come in here when every post is a bashing of the same player - over and over and over and over... again.

I love Devito's fire. Not sure he can last an entire season with that style of play, but for now it's fun to watch.

To the OP's point and thread title, many of these points are absurd. This is eerily familiar to the Cam hate in the past. I don't know. Just weird.

Honestly don't think Stroud would fair much better here than Bryce Young. Maybe he'd have better accuracy on the deep balls, but with these receivers it is not a guarantee. He has struggled mightily since Tank went down and he has much better pass protection.

Not sure Dalton could last the rest of the season. He took a lot of hits against Seattle. Same WR drops as always in that game. But he was much better at getting the ball to the right read and buying himself time. He would be an upgrade over Bryce, but what's the point? We can evaluate the rest of the team with Bryce in the game. Does Bryce give the Panthers the best chance to win? - not right now.

I'm not saying Bryce shouldn't have made that completion. He should have. 100%. But I've seen every QB in the NFL miss that throw - too deep and too short. A lot of them were even more open. Saw Stroud do it a couple of weeks ago. So he missed it once - granted that may be the first time he's attemtped it all season. At least he's looking for it now. He wasn't even looking in that direction a week ago. Who else has caught a deep pass in the middle of the field like that on this team - including the Dalton game? I can't remember one. I remember a couple of sideline throws to Chark, but that's it. Honestly think playcalling has been a big problem this season. Oh and Mingo is getting better against the press. I think he'll be ok.

Now this is a fair assessment. I hate when folk just say Bryce sucks, he's not athletic, he has a weak arm - with nothing other than their opinion to justify it. Even though he's a very good running QB, overthrows WRs and has passes bounce off WRs hands and facemasks all the time. That doesn't scream weak arm talent. Now deep outs are another story. It's concerning and I've noticed it too. I've also noticed that we don't run alot of those routes so it's difficult to tell if it's scheme or QB. Don't remember a true 15yard out even with Dalton out there so there's a possibility for both. Those deep outs also require a WR that can get out of their break without a bunch of steps to collect themselves (and not fade away from the ball). Honestly, don't think that guy is on the roster. Maybe Marsette? But agree, I'd love to see Bryce dig in and fire a deep out. Just to put the defense on notice. I think him trying deep passes is promising and hopefully he starts hitting them. But those misses aren't an arm strength problem. They're more a timing issue. That deep out is very telling. Big boy throw.