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Blake Corum was a 3rd rounder. That kid can do it all. And he's just sitting on the Ram's bench. Would love to swoop him or a similar RB up for a 4th rounder.

They absolutely have to draft a RB. Unless Boone turns out to be something. Then I'd use those picks on offensive line.

Stats absolutely don't tell the full story. All passes are not the same. Bryce is actually making some high difficulty plays. The scramble out of his own end zone to hit XL for 30+ yards last Sunday is not the same as a WR running open 30 yards down the field and you just toss it to him. Very different levels of difficulty. And the drops... All drops are not the same. WRs occassionally lose concentration on routine plays. That happens. It's understandable when you do something so often that it becomes second nature - until you screw it up by not finishing. So, I wouldn't even bring up the 5 - 10 yards drops in the middle of a drive. I'm identifying the dropped TDs (I can remember 3 off the top of my head to Tremble, Thielen and Moore), and deep passes, and even an interception that was a perfectly placed deep pass that the DB took out of XL's hands. He literally had both hands on the ball and the DB took it from him as he went to secure it, and that counted as an interception on the QB. The yards or the strip don't show up unless you watch the game. Stats tell a story. Just not a complete one.

Right. My main reason for wanting an offensive minded coach was to be more aggressive offensively. Fox and Rivera offenses would have been hard to watch without Jake (I'm just throwing it up deep to Smitty) and Cam (I'm running by, through and over everybody).

Yeah, I definitely agree that he hasn't been top 5 overall QB in the NFL. I interpret the posts I've seen as top 5 in some metrics over the last 3-4 games. Top 5 overall is just not true.

I don't expect the Cowboys to win, but I do see what you're saying about the team playing to their competition. The passing game is a good example. I don't know if it's playcalls or QB decision, but the Panthers seem to be conservative early in close games.

Well that's certainly obvious. But to give up on a 2nd round pick half way through his 2nd season is hasty. Unless he's a malcontent or they really do have plans to upgrade the receiving corps next season and he isn't in the plans.

Very good point.

This is why Diontae had to go. Anyone think Mingo was another "issue"?

Wait, what? I thought you were... never mind. I'm so confused right now.

Whoever is coaching the oline needs to be extended indefinitely. He can only leave if he retires.

He'll be fine. As much as Canales is known as a QB whisperer, he and Idzik are really WR coaches. They'll get Legette right. He just needs to not be injured during off season workouts.

I think you meant to say - If XL stays on his feet and just catches the ball with his hands and walk into the endzone to take the lead, and the defense doesn't give up a FG with 45 seconds remaining in the game. Agree. I don't get why folk are hating on Bryce right now. I was down on him after the first 2 games. But he's playing really good football right now. Really good.

Alright Rock. If you say so. For the record, Dalton had 3 games with over 200 yards passing in his 5 game stint as the starter. Guess who his leading receiver was in each of those games? Guess...

Let's not forget J. Sanders going full Nakamura on a perfectly placed scramble drill ball that may have gone for 70 and a TD.

I'm not nitpicking. I'm pointing out fallacies in your statement. So take out Diontae and Adam from the Raiders game, and what would his stats look like? Don't get into hypotheticals about someone else replacing those numbers. No other receivers on this team are remotely at their levels, particularly in that game.

Bryce's interception was a big play. Particularly since Philly drove down and scored a TD. Not the right time to take a chance there. Actually it was just a bad miss. Even if he didn't see the safety (which I doubt), it wasn't even close to being catchable. It happens. As for XL, he is a rookie with the yips. Maybe he's hitting the wall. I think he'll be fine once he gets his confidence back. He's questioning every catch and pressing because of it. That was a fairly routine catch for an NFL WR. That was a fairly routine catch for Legette. He caught it with both hands and just didn't secure it.

He hasn't had the same supporting cast since returning. The #1 target and leading receiver is gone. Coker has missed 2 games and Sanders has missed one (he wasn't quite right yesterday either - may have come back too soon). Heck, Thielen has only been back like 2 games along with Tremble, right? The first couple of games it was only the rookies - Legette, Coker and Sanders. But he did have Ian Thomas. Andy didn't really have him for most of his run.

He's in his head right now. A couple of bad weeks and he's pressing. The yips. May need a Bryce Young break to get his confidence back. J/K. He'll work through it. Gotta be patient. Not making excuses though. He was B.A.D. yesterday. Can't stay at the X like that.

A vet backup is very important when you have a QB on their first contract. But they should not be trying to draft a QB in the first 4 rounds as his backup. I don't think that makes sense at this point. Bryce is the starter now. Another QB would come in as a backup/mentor only. There is no more QB competition. They already did that with Andy after game 2. Bryce earned it with his play on the field.

So I guess I understand if some Huddlers wanted a Cam Newton. Bryce will never be a Cam. If the physical limitations is because you're comparing him to Cam, then I 100% see it. And I do agree that Cam, Vick, Josh Allen or Lamar are the only QBs that could have any success with this team the last 2 seasons, due to their ability to take over games with their legs. The weapons are not NFL average, and that matters - a lot. Particularly when we're using stats to justify success. No QB is putting up 300 air yards a game. There has to be big plays and RAC to get there consistently. Add in that he's doing it with young guys still figuring out how to be pros, and an older vet WR that was never fast to begin with. I do see Bryce being able to do the things guys like Cam, Vick, Allen and Lamar can't. He does have a little elusiveness in his game too. He ain't those guys, but he's better than most in that department. The ball placement, touch, anticipation, manipulation of defenders, arm angles, etc. have been really impressive the last month, and inconsistently in the past. If he can continue to improve his deep ball, he's definitely a franchise QB to build around. That's a big if though. Early on, he was possibly the worst deep ball passer I'd ever seen. He's an outlier and not ideal in a lot of areas. But he gets it done his way, and is actually looking like a QB with the clutch gene. And everybody doesn't have that.

I think Legette will be ok. He's a rookie and wasn't quite ready to be a #1. Diontae Johnson and Adam Thielen were supposed to be the top targets this season. Legette needs a season or two to reach his potential. We still need a faster playmaker though. That player has been missing since Steve Smith. Maybe Tedd Ginn. But his hands were even more suspect.

Just ignore those posts. He's one of Zod's ish starters. They get paid with nude photos of cheerleaders over 35. And Vegan sausage dishes

Wait, what are the physical limitations of CMC when coming into the league? He has a 8.52 RAS. It's ok if you don't want to say it.

I'm convinced that Zod is paying some of you guys to make outrageous statements on this board to stir ish up. If you watched this game and came away thinking Bryce played average, then your "average" is ridiculously high because you don't watch enough football. This offense is devoid of talent at the skilled positions. It's actually pretty bad.